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    Default How much better is my team than yours?

    Using viritas' "power rankings" which average together several rankings:

    125 Brandon Precin # 3
    133 Dan Dennis # 2
    141 Alex Tsirtsis # 2
    149 Lance Palmer # 4
    157 Mike Chandler # 8
    165 Ryan Morningstar # 2
    FLEX Jon Reader # 5
    174 Jay Borschel # 4
    184 David Craig # 9
    197 Tyrel Todd # 6
    HWT Konrad Dudziak # 5

    BENCH:
    125 Obe Blanc # 11
    157 Jason Welch # 16
    184 Joe LeBlanc # 9
    197 Eric Lapotsky # 11

    Answer: A lot.
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    125 (9) Joey Fio Oklahoma
    133 (1) Reece Humphrey Ohio State
    141 (8) J Jaggers Ohio State University
    149 (1) Brent Metcalf Iowa
    157 (18) Jason Johnstone Ohio State
    165 (3) Colt Sponseller THE Ohio State University
    174 (7) Mike Miller Central Michigan
    184 (6) Doug Umbehauer Rider
    197 (5) Brent Chriswell Boise State
    285 (3) Jermail Porter Kent State

    BENCH:
    125 (23) Nikko Triggas Ohio State
    141 (16) Keith Sulzer Northwestern
    174 (11) Kurt Brenner WVU
    184 (11) Chris Honeycutt Edinboro
    197 (7) Brandon Halsey UC-Bakersfield

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    Default Re: How much better is my team then yours?

    125 Precin dec. Fio (0-3)
    133 Humphrey dec. Dennis (3-3)
    141 Tsirtsis dec. Jaggers (3-6)
    149 Metcalf dec. Palmer (6-6)
    157 Chandler dec. Johnstone (6-9)
    165 M* dec. Sponseller (6-12)
    174 Miller dec. Borschel (9-12)
    184 Umbehauer dec. Craig (12-12)
    197 Chriswell dec. Todd (15-12)
    285 Porter dec. Dudziak (18-12)

    NOTES:
    -133 and 165 are really both toss ups, so I went with the higher ranked.
    -Who knows if Jaggers would beat Tsirtsis or not. I'm betting that he wouldn't, but he's still the defending champ...
    -Yes, I know Borschell is ranked higher than Miller. I also would probably give him the edge if they wrestled again, but Miller won the last time the wrestled, and I knew it would irritate Zapp, so I gave Miller the victory . Even if Borschell wins that match it's still a 5/5 split, so I don't know that I'd say your team is THAT much better than mine...

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    Default Re: How much better is my team then yours?

    That would actually be a pretty fun dual to watch...

    I just checked and Todd is 1-1 against ranked opponents at 197. I'm surprised they keep him ranked so high after such little action and such an injury.

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    Craig has already wrestled Umbehauer this year. Craig DEC Umbehauer 8-6. That makes it a 15-15 tie giving you 2 out of 3 toss ups.

    Also, Todd has more matches then Chriswell, so I'm not sure about your rankings complaint there. You'll need to win 2 out of 3 toss-ups to TIE my team. A possibility, of course, but I think you'll see Dennis is a bad match up for Mr. Humphrey. Hump struggles with the brawlers (re: Baker). Either way, you'll be
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    Re 184: Touche. I didn't realize they had wrestled.

    Hump definitely had trouble with Baker, and I think 133 is a razor sharp matchup. I also think the same about 165. If I had to bet on the 2, I would probably take Dennis at 133 and Sponseller at 165--but I went with rankings to stir up less controversy. Mind you, if I had gone with Intermat as has been used for these comparisons in the past, I would have been favored in both of those bouts.

    What 3 tossups are you talking about? 184 is as much of a tossup as 174--I am not giving you Craig over Umbehauer as a sure thing. Yes, Craig beat Umbehauer in head to head, but Umbehauer has not lost to David Thompson and Larry Wilbanks. So that's 4 tossups--I would have to win 2 to tie your team, and you would have to win 2 to tie mine. Sounds pretty even to me.

    I think you forgot to finish your post...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold View Post
    Re 184: Touche. I didn't realize they had wrestled.

    Hump definitely had trouble with Baker, and I think 133 is a razor sharp matchup. I also think the same about 165. If I had to bet on the 2, I would probably take Dennis at 133 and Sponseller at 165--but I went with rankings to stir up less controversy. Mind you, if I had gone with Intermat as has been used for these comparisons in the past, I would have been favored in both of those bouts.

    What 3 tossups are you talking about? 184 is as much of a tossup as 174--I am not giving you Craig over Umbehauer as a sure thing. Yes, Craig beat Umbehauer in head to head, but Umbehauer has not lost to David Thompson and Larry Wilbanks. So that's 4 tossups--I would have to win 2 to tie your team, and you would have to win 2 to tie mine. Sounds pretty even to me.

    I think you forgot to finish your post...
    Todd-Chriswell is another toss up that I didn't count in my original post. So, if we include 184, You'd have to win 3 of 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    Using viritas' "power rankings" which average together several rankings:

    125 Brandon Precin # 3
    133 Dan Dennis # 2
    141 Alex Tsirtsis # 2
    149 Lance Palmer # 4
    157 Mike Chandler # 8
    165 Ryan Morningstar # 2
    FLEX Jon Reader # 5
    174 Jay Borschel # 4
    184 David Craig # 9
    197 Tyrel Todd # 6
    HWT Konrad Dudziak # 5

    BENCH:
    125 Obe Blanc # 11
    157 Jason Welch # 16
    184 Joe LeBlanc # 9
    197 Eric Lapotsky # 11

    Answer: A lot.
    125: Precin Mdec Mustari 0-3
    133: Dennis dec hochstrasser 0-6
    141: Tshirts dec Gallikc 0-9 (I would put money on gallick)
    149: Caldwell WBF Palmer 6-9
    157: Gillespie dec Chandler 9-9
    165: Fay dec M* 12-9
    174: Miller dec Borschel 15-9
    184: Patterson WBF Craig 21-9
    197: Tie
    HVY: Tie

    Consistent with the rules I set up for fantasy duals
    I think Halsey could beat todd at this point also, so I have the edge at 197 even though we both have Todd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoSt View Post
    125: Precin Mdec Mustari 0-3
    133: Dennis dec hochstrasser 0-6
    141: Tshirts dec Gallikc 0-9 (I would put money on gallick)
    149: Caldwell WBF Palmer 6-9
    157: Gillespie dec Chandler 9-9
    165: Fay dec M* 12-9
    174: Miller dec Borschel 15-9
    184: Patterson WBF Craig 21-9
    197: Tie
    HVY: Tie

    Consistent with the rules I set up for fantasy duals
    I think Halsey could beat todd at this point also, so I have the edge at 197 even though we both have Todd.
    You really stretch credulity to make yourself the winner.
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