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    Default 2011-2012 Rules

    League Structure

    A)
    Thou Shalt Not Change the Rules Mid-season.

    B) Each team will have 15 wrestlers. Each week, you may start 11 wrestlers: one at each weight class and one "flex" wrestler of your choice who will receive points regardless of which weight he wrestles.



    Competition/How to Win


    Competition is not head-to-head. Instead, every week, your team's points (see "Scoring" below for details) will be added to your cumulative total. Cumulative scoring ends after conference championship week. At this point, the top teams make it to "the playoffs," which is really just the NCAA Tournament. For the playoffs, the cumulative scores are disregarded, and whichever player accrues the most points during the NCAA Tournament wins the league.


    A)
    Posting Your Lineup. Weeks will begin on Friday and end on Thursday. Every week, the commissioner will open a thread wherein all lineups must be posted by midnight (Pacific) Thursday night. If your lineup is not posted by this deadline, your lineup from the previous week will be used. No exceptions.

    B)
    Making the Playoffs. The top 5 cumulative scorers from the Regular Season will qualify for the Championship Bracket. In addition, the player who scores the most points in conference week who would not otherwise have qualified will be awarded a playoff spot. All players that do

    C) Prizes
    i) Championship Bracket. The winner of the Championship bracket receives eternal glory as the league's champion. His name shall be posted for eternity in the Hall of Glory below.
    ii) Loser's Bracket. The winner of the Loser's Bracket wins the right to assign a signature to the last place finisher from the Championship Bracket.

    Scoring


    A)
    Regular Season Scoring
    i) Points will be awarded as follows: Pin - 6; Tech - 5; Major - 4; Decision - 3; Forfeit - 3; Medical Default - 3; Injury Default - 6.
    ii) Points will only be awarded at the weight class listed for the wrestler when you posted your lineup. The "flex" wrestler is the exception to this rule and will be awarded points no matter what weight class he wrestles. For example, if you listed your wrestler at 133 but he bumps up to wrestle 141, you won't get any points.
    iii) Dual Meets. All dual matches will be scored.
    iv) Tournaments. In eligible tournaments, all matches will be scored. The following tournaments are eligible:
    Tournaments. In eligible tournaments, all matches will be scored. The following tournaments are eligible, listed alphabetically (dates in parenthesis/bold = active in current week/italics = completed):

    Binghamton-(Nov 13th)
    Body Bar Invitational -(Nov 19th)
    Brockport/Oklahoma Gold-(Nov 12th)
    Buffalo Open-(Nov 6th)
    Cliff Keen Invitational* -(Dec 2nd & 3rd)
    Harold Nichols Open-(Nov 13th)
    Hokie Open-(Nov 6th)
    Kauffman-Brand-(Dec 4th)
    Keystone Classic -(Nov 20th)
    Mat Town Invitational -(Dec 29th)
    Michigan State Open-(Nov 12th)
    Midlands*-(Dec 29th & 30th)
    Navy Classic -(Nov 19th)
    NC State Open-(Nov 13th)
    NWCA All-Star Classic-(Nov 21st)
    Penn State Open-(Dec 4th)
    PSAC
    -(Dec 10th)
    Reno Tournament of Champions
    -(Dec 18th)
    Southern Scuffle*
    -(Jan 1st & 2nd)

    Tournaments listed in DATE order below in post #3

    v) Bonus Tournaments. *Champions of Midlands, CKI, and the Southern Scuffle will receive 10 bonus points. Runners up at these tournaments will receive 5 bonus points, and third place finishers will receive 3 bonus points.
    vi) If your wrestler beats
    an Intermat, TheOpenMat or Coaches Panel ranked wrestler in a non-eligible tournament, you will get the points for that win.
    vii) The NWCA All-Star Classic will be scored. Both the "Main Event" and the "Side Card" qualify.
    Five (5) points will be awarded for participating in the event.
    viii) Conference Tournaments count as part of the regular season. However, wrestlers who win the Big 10 and Big 12 tournaments will get 15 bonus points added to their scores, those finishing second in these two tournaments will get 10 bonus points
    , and those finishing in third place will receive 5 bonus points. The guys who win OW at those tournaments will also get 5 bonus points. All other conferences will have bonuses of 10 points for a championship, 5 points for a second, and 3 points for third.

    B)
    Playoff Scoring
    i) The playoffs are really a one-event deal, with that event being the NCAA Championships. Teams making the playoffs will have their scores reset, and the whoever generates the most points at NCAAs wins. "Tournament scoring" will be used for the playoffs. I'm not exactly sure of all the details of tournament scoring, but you can probably find it in the NCAA rules online somewhere. I will post it when I get to it.
    ii) Bonuses will be awarded as follows: OW - 3; Gorrarian - 2.


    Wrestler Acquisition


    Wrestlers may be acquired in 3 different ways: The draft, free agency, and trading.


    A)
    The Draft
    i) Draft Order. The draft will be performed in a random order that will be announced before the draft.
    ii) Draft Execution. Because this league is carried out over a message board, the draft is kind of tricky. We will have the draft in October, and it will probably take a week or so. Basically, when it's your turn, someone will text/call you to let you know. At that point you will have a time window to make your pick by posting it on here or by phone/text/etc. This way, if you are at work/school, you will have time to make your pick.

    B)
    Keeping A Wrestler.
    As a reward for good drafting, GM's may elect to retain one wrestler from one year to the next, provided that the wrestler is eligible.
    i) Eligibility. To keep a wrestler, you must have drafted him (and not traded for him or picked him up out of free agency) the previous year and kept him on your roster the entire season. Wrestlers drafted in the first or second rounds are not eligible to be retained.
    ii) Cost of Keeping a Wrestler. The retained wrestler will cost a draft pick, the round of which will be two rounds higher than the wrestler was drafted the previous year. For example, if someone were to draft Joe Schmoe in the 7th round this year, they would be able to keep him in lieu of their 5th round pick the following year, and the 3rd round after that, and the 1st round after that. This is why wrestlers originally drafted in the first or second rounds are not eligible to be retained.

    C)
    Free Agency/Waiver
    Each owner can claim up to 10 wrestlers from free agency/waivers throughout the season (known as the free agent quota). In order to do so, the owner must drop another wrestler from his roster. Claims are placed by posting in the "Free Agency/Waivers" thread.
    i) Free Agency. Any wrestler not on a roster or waivers (see below) is a free agent. A free agent may be claimed at any time on a first-come, first-serve basis.
    ii) Waivers. Whenever an owner drops a wrestler from his roster, that wrestler will be placed on waivers for 3 days. At the end of this period, whichever owner who wants the wrestler and has the highest waiver priority will "win" the wrestler. This owner will then move to the bottom of the waiver priority list. Initially, the waiver priority order will be the reverse of the draft order (aka reverse alphabetical order). If no one claims the wrestler in the waiver period, the wrestler will fall into the free agency pool.

    D)
    Trading
    i) Getting a trade approved. After you negotiate a trade, post it for approval. For the most part, trading is allowed freely. However, any trade deemed detrimental to the spirit of competition will be rejected. The commissioner reserves the right to reject any and all trades.
    ii) Overturning commissioner trades. Trades involving the commissioner may be overturned by rejecting votes from 4 league members who believe the trade is detrimental to the spirit of competition.
    iii) Deadline. No trades will be allowed after
    February 14, 2012, at midnight Pacific Time.
    iv) Multi-wrestler trades. If you trade and that leaves you with only 14 wrestlers, adding another wrestler from the free agent pool will count against your free agent quota. If a trade leaves you with 16 wrestlers, you must drop a wrestler, but this transaction will not affect your quota.
    v) Add/Drops. Free agent add/drops may be traded as reasonable consideration.



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    2008-09: Gold
    2009-10: Herkey#1
    2010-11: Gold
    2011-12: GoBigRed
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    Default Re: Rules 2011-2012: Draft

    Going to start going through looking at the proposed modifications and adding some of these things in. If you see anything else that you think should be changed/improved, please speak up!

    Changes Made:
    1) Shifted time (found a wormhole in space while wandering in my back yard to accomplish this) so that our weeks begin on Fridays and end on Thursdays.
    2) Reno ToC is no longer a bonus point tournament.
    3) Third place finishers at bonus tournaments now get 3 points bonus. Conference tournament 3rd place finishers get bonus points as well.
    4) TOM and Coaches rankings will now be used to qualify matches at unscored tournaments.
    5) 5 points will now be awarded to All-Star Classic participants.
    6) Trade Deadline moved to February 14.
    7) Ruling time zone switched from Eastern to Pacific.
    8) Keystone Classic, Buffalo Open, Harold Nichols Open and Mat Town Invitational added to scored tournaments, EMU Open removed.
    9) Add/Drops may now be traded.
    10) Commissioner trades can now be overturned if 4 members vote to overturn it.
    11) The winner of the Loser's Bracket wins the right to assign a signature to the last place finisher from the Championship Bracket.
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    Default Re: Rules 2011-2012: Draft

    DATE ORDER of Fantasy league scoring Tournaments

    Buffalo Open-(Nov 6th)
    Hokie Open-(Nov 6th)
    Brockport/Oklahoma Gold-(Nov 12th)
    Michigan State Open -(Nov 12th)

    Binghamton -(Nov 13th)
    Harold Nichols Open -(Nov 13th)
    NC State Open-(Nov 13th)

    Body Bar Invitational
    -(Nov 19th)
    Navy Classic -(Nov 19th)

    Keystone Classic -(Nov 20th)
    NWCA All-Star Classic-(Nov 21st)

    Cliff Keen Invitational*-(Dec 2nd & 3rd)

    Kauffman-Brand-(Dec 4th)
    Penn State Open -(Dec 4th)

    PSAC-(Dec 10th)

    Reno Tournament of Champions-(Dec 18th)

    Mat Town Invitational-(Dec 29th)
    Midlands*-(Dec 29th & 30th)

    Southern Scuffle*-(Jan 1st & 2nd)


    What about my ideas of a 2nd tier playoff AND including tournaments that are on the schedules, (Like the all academy & NY State Championships)?
    Last edited by kr1963; 01-23-2012 at 08:26 PM.

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    Have you contacted the people of the Reno TOC and made them aware of your decision?
    To avoid criticism say nothing, do nothing, be nothing.

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    Default Re: Rules 2011-2012: Draft

    kr: I'm not done going through yet. I'm moving on Saturday and still don't know where, so I've been pretty busy. The 2nd tier playoff will be added for sure (why not). I'm leaning towards no on the score-all-tourneys-on-schedules things, and the NYS Championships and All-Academy Championships are terrible arguments for the movement. This will be one of the harder decisions to make.

    vais: No.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold View Post
    kr: I'm not done going through yet. I'm moving on Saturday and still don't know where, so I've been pretty busy. The 2nd tier playoff will be added for sure (why not). I'm leaning towards no on the score-all-tourneys-on-schedules things, and the NYS Championships and All-Academy Championships are terrible arguments for the movement. This will be one of the harder decisions to make.
    Is it any different then scheduling a couple of duals with DII or DIII schools? If it is on the team's schedule it should be scored otherwise we could list out a bunch of meets & duals that shouldn't count.

    Indiana vs Wabash? SIUE?
    Iowa vs Cornell & Iowa City & SIUE & Coe?
    Purdue vs Calumet?
    Illinois vs SIUE?
    Boise St vs North Idaho?
    Oklahoma vs Oklahoma City? Central Oklahoma?

    You get the idea.

    So if you are not going to approve those then you should limit scoring strictly to matches, duals, tournaments vs DI opponents ONLY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    Is it any different then scheduling a couple of duals with DII or DIII schools? If it is on the team's schedule it should be scored otherwise we could list out a bunch of meets & duals that shouldn't count.

    Indiana vs Wabash? SIUE?
    Iowa vs Cornell & Iowa City & SIUE & Coe?
    Purdue vs Calumet?
    Illinois vs SIUE?
    Boise St vs North Idaho?
    Oklahoma vs Oklahoma City? Central Oklahoma?

    You get the idea.

    So if you are not going to approve those then you should limit scoring strictly to matches, duals, tournaments vs DI opponents ONLY.
    That's the argument I often made. However, I now am against scoring everything. I think if you add every tournament you take a lot of the strategy/skill out of drafting since MOST schools have a few awful tournaments that can rack up points for you.

    Scheduling is a big aspect of this sport and drafting for a good schedule is part of what makes this a challenge and not just a "draft the best guy" type of competition.

    The teams that don't take schedules into consideration get buried, and I like that aspect of our leauge.
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    I like the idea of scoring all events. The cliche one match at a time blah blah blah but it is true! Why do we award someone for winning a dual vs shitty teams but not award them for winning a finals match in an open. No matter what open it is finalists whether D1, D2, D3, NAIA, Juco if they are in the finals of an open they are at least respectable competition. I don't like the idea of finding people that can win shitty tourneys that are scored like how I limped into NCAA's. Pick the kids you think that are your big scorers for the year and NCAA's and score every match the same. Do away with bonus pts for winning tourneys score everything the same until conference. I also believe the Scuffle should be banned b/c of the UNCG debacle. BTW the EMU open, the all academy tournament and Reno are all tougher than the Eastern and Western Regional tournaments, look at this years champs of each

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    Default Re: Rules 2011-2012: Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    That's the argument I often made. However, I now am against scoring everything. I think if you add every tournament you take a lot of the strategy/skill out of drafting since MOST schools have a few awful tournaments that can rack up points for you.

    Scheduling is a big aspect of this sport and drafting for a good schedule is part of what makes this a challenge and not just a "draft the best guy" type of competition.

    The teams that don't take schedules into consideration get buried, and I like that aspect of our leauge.
    I am not talking EVERY THING Vais just what is on the schedule. Teams don't put all the open tourneys on their schedules. So if you allow whatever is on the schedule to be scored then somethings will be dropped & other things will added.

    Now if you are going to selective & eliminate things from scoring like the 2 "tournaments" (that are mostly D1 programs) I have mentioned then why should teams like Iowa, Indian, Purdue, Illinois & Boise get to score non-DI opponents? I think that then you should eliminate all scoring vs all non-DI opponents. Otherwise it is a JOKE!

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