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    This year we had four guys that I think people would agree are in the discussion for being high up on the list of best college wrestlers. That's a pretty good year.
    I'd still rank Sanderson first and Gable second. I realize that Gable took second one year and Dake won all 4, but Dake has a lot more losses throughout his career and even though they were not in the tournament, they still count. But my point is not to have that discussion.

    Let's start by assuming that Taylor and Ruth go undefeated next year (not unrealistic in my opinion).
    • Obviously, Dake is going to have to go very high on the list. 4 for for (making him one of three). A career record of 137-4,
    • Taylor would finish 2,1,2,1, with his only losses coming to NCs. Roughly 125-3.
    • Ruth would finish 3,1,1,1. Undefeated for the final three years, roughly 125-2 (those losses coming in his first year as a starter, one in his second week to an AA, the other when he tore cartilage in his knee at NCAA Quarterfinals).
    • And going into the season, I thought McD was going to have a career of 1,2,1,1. But we know that didn't happen


    Where would you put these guys? I don't mean for you to complete a list, since I'm too lazy to do that (maybe that is something to do during the slow summer months). But where do you rank them relative to each other and roughly in history?

    Obviously (and for me unfortunately) I have to put Dake at the top of this group, and he is going to be top 5 or 6 ever.
    I think I have to put Ruth second, and Taylor right behind him. Ruth having 3 undefeated seasons and his worst finish at 3rd with an injury gives him the slight nod. Both will probably go in the 5-15 range
    Had McD done what I thought he would, I'd have him right there as well. But sadly, this year changed that. Not only does he easily sit in 4th on this list, but he slides way down the list. He now has a 1,2,1 DNP, and that is a really tough ending to an otherwise great career. I think he is going to be around 20-25. I realize he was injured, but that won't be remembered.

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    I said it in my other thread, but based on the magnitude of his total career I've got Dake as my #2 all time.

    That may change if I really sat down and really researched things, but the only person I've got over Dake in strictly NCAA competition is Cael.
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    There have been 23 three-time champions to go with the three four-time champions, which would put Taylor 27th place on the list at best if he wins it all next year. It's about championships. I'm sure anyone who has finished 2nd would be more than happy to trade a regular season loss for the championship.

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    hoosierdj,
    Others agree with your opinion that it is all about championships, but I don't. I believe it is possible that the second best guy might be stuck behind the best guy. I think there are some guys out there who benefited from a weaker weight class and do have the National Champion that are not as good as those who don't.

    I didn't realize there were that many 3x winners though, so I definitely need to revisit my historical rankings. I'd keep Taylor and Ruth (projected) top 20ish, but McD has to drop much lower...

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    You would probably have to drop McD a lilttle if you didnt use your head one tiny bit.

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    Where do you guys place Pat Smith on the all-time list? I know he was the first 4 timer, but I don't think he's even number one in his own family.

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    BTW, My top 5 would be:
    1- Sanderson
    2- Gable
    3- Dake
    4- Hodge
    5- McIlravey

    Granted, these guys are all modern era (other than Hodge). The debate could get really crazy once we bring in some of the early OK St guys. I'm sure about the top 4, but Lincoln could have serious competition for #5 from several guys from that era

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    I know Steiber has only completed two years, but he is certainly on track to be on that list, especially with his beatng Jordan Oliver in the finals as a true freshman

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    I know Steiber has only completed two years, but he is certainly on track to be on that list, especially with his beatng Jordan Oliver in the finals as a true freshman
    I agree, but since he still has 2 years to go, I left him off the list.

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