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    Default Re: 25 Best Wrestlers 2000-2009: Full List Posted

    Good list only thing that stuck out to me that I would disagree with is placing Jantzen above pritzlaff and hahn. I just cant place a 2x champion and 4x aa below a 1x champ and 3x time all american.

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    Default Re: 25 Best Wrestlers 2000-2009: Full List Posted

    I also thought Jones BBQ'd his soph year, but he won 2 matches on the backside before Rashad beat him.

    I understand the reasoning for leaving Gallick off, but if this is a "best wrestlers" list, you'd be hard pressed to tell me Ware was better than Gallick. Gallick was something like 6-1 against Ware as a 1x champ, and 3-0 against him as a 2x champ. And the only reason Gallick wasn't at 141 his freshman year because returning champ Holker was there.

    Along those same lines, what's the most number of wins one guy has against a 2x champ, AFTER he won his titles?
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    Default Re: 25 Best Wrestlers 2000-2009: Full List Posted

    I too do not understand how you can leave off Gallick and leave Konrad below mocco using your "senior year he was at a different level" arguement that you used for Jantzen.
    Gold is an idiot.

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    Default Re: 25 Best Wrestlers 2000-2009: Full List Posted

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU2008 View Post

    I understand the reasoning for leaving Gallick off, but if this is a "best wrestlers" list, you'd be hard pressed to tell me Ware was better than Gallick. Gallick was something like 6-1 against Ware as a 1x champ, and 3-0 against him as a 2x champ.
    Ware and Gallick are kind of the same situation as Askren and Pendleton.

    Pendleton has nearly all the wins in the rivalry, but Askren has the better numbers for a career so Askren gets the high spot on the list.

    Konrad and Mocco, they're career record is right around .500 (Cole may be up on him 4-3?) both had two undefeated seasons, both have two titles but I gave Mocco the bump both last year and this year because of his extra finals appearance and his six more pins.

    Jantzen was just an example of me being a little more subjective. I wanted especially to move Letters up from where I originally had him and I had Jantzen ranked above him and wasn't going to leap frog him so he went up too.

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    Default Re: 25 Best Wrestlers 2000-2009: Full List Posted

    Im sorry but hendricks was way better then perry. he beat beat perry 7 or 8 times and perry beat hendricks only once. if i was going to make a list henricks would be higher up closer to the top 5.
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    Default Re: 25 Best Wrestlers 2000-2009: Full List Posted

    2,3,1,1 says otherwise. Hendricks really should have only been 1x champ if it werent for one of the worst officiated matches in Wrestling history.

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    Default Re: 25 Best Wrestlers 2000-2009: Full List Posted

    This matter actually came up last year.

    Both guys have two titles, and three finals appearances with one of their titles being won over the other guy.

    I gave Perry the bump because of his extra top 3 finish and his 13 more pins.

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    Default Re: 25 Best Wrestlers 2000-2009: Full List Posted

    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    Ryou,

    Take a look at who is listed in the #5 spot, then come back and talk to me.
    I think I'd place Herbert above Jones. That DNP vs the 4X, hmmmm, I don't know SJ, kinda smacks right in the nose. Add in Herbies pin count and victories, B10 versus EWL, losses to the man above and I think we've got a solid argument for Mr. Herbert to move a notch.
    Last edited by RYou; 04-09-2009 at 06:45 AM.
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    Default Re: 25 Best Wrestlers 2000-2009: Full List Posted

    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    2,3,1,1 says otherwise. Hendricks really should have only been 1x champ if it werent for one of the worst officiated matches in Wrestling history.
    How does it say otherwise? Both 2x champs and 3x time finalists but I would say Hendricks dominant series lead says otherwise.

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