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    If you look at 149 this year and think it was strong, more power to you. Maybe it will be more of the same this year but I think most people on here would agree that 149 was one of the weaker weights. I don't think Frank wins the title next year even if Dake moves up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    Why would russell move up? Hes not that big and basically said weights not an issue
    I don't know if I can believe that. Of Thorn, Marion, Alton - none looked to be bigger, in fact all of them appeared to be at a weight disadvantage. Sure - maybe he's got the "best gyro" in the business, etc. - but Russell also looked like a guy that was expert at weight cutting and was doing a lot of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rstrong View Post
    I don't know if I can believe that. Of Thorn, Marion, Alton - none looked to be bigger, in fact all of them appeared to be at a weight disadvantage. Sure - maybe he's got the "best gyro" in the business, etc. - but Russell also looked like a guy that was expert at weight cutting and was doing a lot of it.
    Marion and Thorn looked to be at a weight disadvantage against Russell?! I imagine you're in a very small minority with that perspective. He's not a big 141 pounder, he seems pretty perfect for the weight just like he did three years ago (seemingly has the exact same build as then). With the exception of Burroughs, I wouldn't be surprised if Russell had the easiest cut of all the NCAA champs - which is to say not easy but not something that will make him want to bump up next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rstrong View Post
    I don't know if I can believe that. Of Thorn, Marion, Alton - none looked to be bigger, in fact all of them appeared to be at a weight disadvantage. Sure - maybe he's got the "best gyro" in the business, etc. - but Russell also looked like a guy that was expert at weight cutting and was doing a lot of it.
    Marion and Thorn were never really very big 141's either, that being said I never really noticed a size advantage either way in their matches with Russell.
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    [QUOTE=Herkey#1;398465The very fact that Mason was having a great season, after the season he had at Minnesota, should indicate a depleted weight class. [/QUOTE]

    Or he is more comfortable at Rutgers and it showed in his wrestling...

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    Maybe it's a combination of the two.

    I didnt see him wrestle at all this year, but I did two years ago and he looked a lot like Iowa's 157lber two years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkey#1 View Post
    I didnt see him wrestle at all this year
    It probably would have been for the best if you ended your post after writing this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    It probably would have been for the best if you ended your post after writing this.
    If I would've ended it there, I wouldnt have gotten my roundabout jab in on Minnesota or a former wrestler of theirs.
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    I'd move Tyrone above Percival. I don't think you can put too much weight into the better record thing, considering that Percival wrestled at Ohio and therefore doesn't exactly wrestle the biggest meatgrinder of a schedule pre-NCAAs. Great list though. On a side note, of the top 5, I had the pleasure of wrestling 3 of them (Trenge when I was younger, Snyder, and Lewis twice in college). Fun times lol
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