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    Quote Originally Posted by Chop View Post
    I could care less who beat who last year or this year for that matter.
    That rules out everything except gut feelings and talking out of your butt. You didn't really mean that did you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chop View Post
    I guess we need to call the NCAA and tell them not to hold the tourny this year. No need to wrestle just use the last rankings and hand out awards. I could care less who beat who last year or this year for that matter. If I were to use your logic Long has no shot a beating Ramos ever again! Just stupid!
    Because thats what everyone is suggesting...? Youre a bit of a drama queen chop. People have opinions. Some people use past results to reinforce those opinions. Nobody has said anything as definitive as you would suggest they were saying.
    To avoid criticism say nothing, do nothing, be nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    \Some people use past results to reinforce those opinions.
    Perish the thought...
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    Consider it perished.
    To avoid criticism say nothing, do nothing, be nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwh27 View Post
    There's a pretty decent chance that Adam Hall will get the #1 seed because the All-Star exhibition does not count toward seeding. Hall will probably finish the season undefeated and he's the highest returning placer, beating Fittery in the consolation semifinals. So, if that happens then Taylor could lose to Fittery in the semis. It would be unfortunate in my opinion since they have been the most impressive wrestlers at 157 by far this season, but you have to seed consistently and objectively.

    I'm vacillating back and forth between picking Fittery or Taylor to win the title, and I'm sure I won't decide until after seeing them at conferences, though neither one will be challenged on their current trajectory.
    Hadn't thought about the seeding in thatlight but that is a good point & for me personally, it fits that gut feeling I have had all year that DT would lose in the semis. Now I think I know why.

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    Check out comparing DT & SF's common opponents. It's a transitive property orgy....

    DT has beaten more highly ranked opponents.

    Fittery has destroyed his opponents similar to DT, but with more pins.

    Johnny Greisheimer (Edinboro)
    DT MD 25-12
    SF MD 17-8

    Donnie Tasser (Pittsburgh)
    DT TF 26-11
    SF TF 15-0

    Alex Elder (Oregon State)
    DT TF 18-2
    SF TF 20-3

    Sean Bilodeau (Lehigh)
    Both by Fall

    Cocozzo (Rutgers)
    DT MD 13-3
    SF D 6-3

    Frank Hickman (Bloomsburg)
    DT TF 20-5
    SF D 9-4

    Top wins
    (using TOM's current rankings)

    DT over 4,5,6,8,9 all by MD except 4.
    SF over 13,14



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