ASU Assistant Aaron Simpson "let go"

[Trusty]

But the Steiners didn't go to ASU, and Ortiz did. I'm sure that was a factor in the decision.

I'm sure it was a factor, but a good AD that was looking out for the future of one's program would have selected a more qualified and dedicated coach as Steiner.

[homerdindon]

AD that hired Ortiz was Gene Smith, who was previously the AD at Iowa State. I'm sure that Bobby Douglas gave Ortiz a great recommendation (not because he was looking out for Ortiz, but more than likely because he wanted to get rid of him).

[Champ Kind]

Were these parents that you talked to Champ? I plan on writing a bigger rant on the other forum, but I want to take my time on it.

No, just ASU fans. They were funny, yet serious. I told them I had collegiate coaching experience and they said they would hand deliver my resume to the AD.

[Trusty]

AD that hired Ortiz was Gene Smith, who was previously the AD at Iowa State. I'm sure that Bobby Douglas gave Ortiz a great recommendation (not because he was looking out for Ortiz, but more than likely because he wanted to get rid of him).

Good stuff, I never knew the connection....Ortiz must have been at ISU for at least 10 years?

[matclone]

So he was probably qualified for the job, wouldn't you say?

[homerdindon]

Yeah, I think he was there about that long. Yes, he was qualified for the job seeing as how he coached 10+ years at a top program. I wrestled for Ortiz 3 years, and Simpson was my coach for all 5, and I'm just saying that they got rid of the wrong guy, and it's not even remotely close. On the same note, Townsend Saunders was a great coach who cared a ton about the wrestlers on the team, and he was let go after 1 year because they "didn't see eye to eye" as well.

[Trusty]

So he was probably qualified for the job, wouldn't you say?

Obviously, Ortiz is/was qualified for the possition, both as an athlete (back in the good old days of Sun Devil dominance) and as a coach, serving under the great Bobby Douglas, but I said more qualified....In my book, Steiner, had both a better athletic and coaching resume than Ortiz, also this thing called Dedication.

[matclone]

Understood. It's kind of hard to measure Dedication from afar, but I've always admired Ortiz and the Steiners from what I know of them, all multi-AAs, under famous coaches, and assistants in top programs.

[Trusty]

hey homer, what was the deal with LeRoy? Was he "let go" or did he resign and move on?