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    No trade.
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    I'm going to have to hear accboy say why he's interested in this trade before I approve it. To me, it looks like you are getting significant upgrades at 141 and 197 at pretty much no cost. It seems to hurt him conference wise and NCAA-wise, so I can't imagine what he sees in it.


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    Wow. Did you even try to make this not look completely obvious?

    Heres how the email must have read:

    Dear ACCboy,

    Certainly you are aware that you are basically mathematically eliminated. Even though you said on a thread that you were not going to trade with anyone for the rest of the season, i was wondering if you would dump me two of your best for some of my weaker weights? How about I give you Jamal Parks for the top ranked guy at Parks weight. Also I would like All American Cam Simaz for lower ranked and more difficult conference Logan Brown. We both have two complete scrubs w/ zero conference hopes, how about we trade those so as to divert attention away from our other completely lopsided trades?

    Yours in Fantasy,

    Gobigred.
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    Wrong as usual vais. I proposed trades to accboy several times throughout the season, especially to get Dake and Simaz (even when I had Brandvold).

    HOWEVER, I did NOT contact him since he said no trades a few weeks ago. He contacted me yesterday and said he was ready to trade. Feel free to ask him if that is the case.

    And Valenti may be a "scrub" but he's my 5th leading scorer this year (feel free to mock that, but i'm still ahead of your team WITHOUT Burroughs or Gallick doing jack for me). Valenti had a tough 1 pt loss to Diaz last time they wrestled and has improved throughout the season. He's not an easy out at ACCs.

    And, you should talk after the unbelievably lopsided trade you proposed earlier in the year when Gallick went down. Trying to convince me, like I'm stupid, that Cole Schmitt is a definite AA contender and Big 10 finalist contender this year. And trying to sell me on an injured, ineffective 149 in exchange for Kyler.

    Gold is commissioner and if he wants to discuss this, that's fine. But I'm not interested in what you have to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gobigred View Post
    Wrong as usual vais. I proposed trades to accboy several times throughout the season, especially to get Dake and Simaz (even when I had Brandvold).

    HOWEVER, I did NOT contact him since he said no trades a few weeks ago. He contacted me yesterday and said he was ready to trade. Feel free to ask him if that is the case.

    And Valenti may be a "scrub" but he's my 5th leading scorer this year (feel free to mock that, but i'm still ahead of your team WITHOUT Burroughs or Gallick doing jack for me). Valenti had a tough 1 pt loss to Diaz last time they wrestled and has improved throughout the season. He's not an easy out at ACCs.

    And, you should talk after the unbelievably lopsided trade you proposed earlier in the year when Gallick went down. Trying to convince me, like I'm stupid, that Cole Schmitt is a definite AA contender and Big 10 finalist contender this year. And trying to sell me on an injured, ineffective 149 in exchange for Kyler.

    Gold is commissioner and if he wants to discuss this, that's fine. But I'm not interested in what you have to say.
    Tell me how in God's name this could possibly help Accboy, Gobigred? Why would he make a trade to make his team worse across the board?

    I was just wrong about Schmitt but I believe he will do big things. I put too much weight in his 2 big wins. At the time I felt he would contend and I ended up being wrong. That was also a multi person trade(that if you still have the PM I would like you to post as I have deleted mine and I could at least show you how it could at least be conceivably fair.

    If you understand negotiating you would see that a common tactic is to lowball and then you both meet in the middle on a compromise. That was probably what I was looking for.

    A trade offer that I made a month ago that wasn't even accepted is a clever attempt to divert attention from the fact that you are ROBBING ACCBOY(who has been disinterested 60% of the season), or he his just freely dumping guys because he knows he can't win and you might have been nice to him.

    Assume that Sgallan continually posted his lineup for the year and was in the gutter and I offered him Neil Erisman for Jarrod King. Or perhaps the same thing with Therick if he offered Craig Brester for Frank Gayeski. It would be completely obvious and you all would(hopefully) be up in arms.
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    It's a pretty simple decision. No matter how lopsided it may seem to others it almost has to be approved if accboy has agreed to this trade.

    The only way to avoid the perception dishonest trades is to have a trade deadline which is so far in advance of nationals that no one can be accused of dumping wrestlers because they are out of contention. A rule to add next year perhaps. Another way to avoid this is to have a keeper in our league. I doubt accboy would be trading Dake if we could keep one wrestler. Two things to think about for next season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkey#1 View Post
    It's a pretty simple decision. No matter how lopsided it may seem to others it almost has to be approved if accboy has agreed to this trade.

    The only way to avoid the perception dishonest trades is to have a trade deadline which is so far in advance of nationals that no one can be accused of dumping wrestlers because they are out of contention. A rule to add next year perhaps. Another way to avoid this is to have a keeper in our league. I doubt accboy would be trading Dake if we could keep one wrestler. Two things to think about for next season.
    Good point about the Keeper rule, it's a pretty good idea. I realize that trading is very subjective and a matter of opinion about certain wrestlers chances. What if(as ridiculous as this sounds) Herkey and I worked out a deal that I would give him all my studs to basically GUARANTEE him a victory at nationals and then we'd split the winnings.(not that I know if there are any, but I know there are in the other league) Would the trade be accepted as long as I told you that I believe that Eric Schuth will do better than Hudson Taylor this year?
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    Additionally, I hope you guys realize that even though I'm belligerent and argumentative, I hold no negative opinions towards anyone(including KR the nittany nutrition guru). I enjoy discussion/debate and competition and my wife is too nice.
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    Although I don't think we can block this trade from going through as long as both parties agree (I could be wrong...Gold?) We could eliminate both parties from being a part of our league next season if they agree to what is obvious dumping on accboys part with Gobigred being the beneficiary. I know that accboy was in this league last season and I would hope that he would want to be in it again next season. I would also like to have gobigred in the league again next year. I think it makes it more fun to have alot of the same guys from year to year. However I do not want these two in our league if they are willing to make shady transactions such as this one.

    I mean come on Dake and Simaz for Parks and Brown! Do you think were fucking idiots?
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