2008-2009 Preseason College Rankings (D1)

ban basketball · 08-06-2008, 08:15 PM

To those that think that OK State and Minnesota will rise above those ranks, in all honesty, though, will they really be much tougher than where they're ranked right now?

Considering what they've lost in graduations and what they have coming back I don't see them doing a lot more than where they are currently ranked.

That isn't to say that they won't be good teams, but I think they're ranked right.

SetonHallPirate · 08-06-2008, 08:44 PM

ban basketball-I'm going to be thrilled to get one (in Oklahoma State's case) or several (in Minnesota's case) to see them firsthand, namely for the Gophers, December 5-6 at the Las Vegas Invitational, January 1 in their dual against the Cowboys (there's my one chance to see Oklahoma State) at the Sports Pavilion, and January 10-11 at National Duals.

eazee · 08-06-2008, 09:29 PM

I think both Minn and OK State are going to be relying on some tough youngsters. That could help them rise as those guys are ranked kind of conservatively at this point in time.

Minnesota has Zach Sanders at 125. He would not suprise me at all if he AA's. Sonny Yohn should also start. I think 184 will be much tougher to come in and AA, but who knows. 165 isn't the deepest weight class, so who knows where Glasser will end up.

Oklahoma State will have Jamal Parks at 141. He could rise through the ranks quickly. 197 has cleared out a bit, maybe Foster makes a jump. Mason if he is at 165 like rumored could be a contender. Also you have Jordan Oliver and Alex Meade. If they start they have AA potential.

ban basketball · 08-06-2008, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by eazee

I think both Minn and OK State are going to be relying on some tough youngsters. That could help them rise as those guys are ranked kind of conservatively at this point in time.

Minnesota has Zach Sanders at 125. He would not suprise me at all if he AA's. Sonny Yohn should also start. I think 184 will be much tougher to come in and AA, but who knows. 165 isn't the deepest weight class, so who knows where Glasser will end up.

Oklahoma State will have Jamal Parks at 141. He could rise through the ranks quickly. 197 has cleared out a bit, maybe Foster makes a jump. Mason if he is at 165 like rumored could be a contender. Also you have Jordan Oliver and Alex Meade. If they start they have AA potential.

Not to burst any bubbles, but it will be a while before Sanders AA's.

goferphan · 08-07-2008, 12:32 AM

I have to disagree. I think Zach Sanders has a great chance to qualify for NCAA's and from there we will see. I put his chances of AA'ing at 33% give or take a few percentage points.

goferphan · 08-07-2008, 12:36 AM

I actually think only Escobedo (if he stays at 125, Falck and Precin) will finish ahead of him at Big Ten's. He is ranked at 13 already and there are a few ahead of him that in my opinion he could take out. It would be a real stretch to think that he could crack top five however.

r.payton@att.net · 08-07-2008, 05:48 AM

Angel has no problem holding 125 -although Hernandez will go up to 141 and they will throw Ortega out there at 133 -Ortega had a few impressive wins as a redshirt but I don't know if he is -or ever will be -big 10 ready . Every year i get my hopes up and somehow IU finds a way to lose . last years loss to Purdue was damn near traumatic -Scmaltz beats Andre at 133 -then the Hwt gets stuck with 13 seconds left .

Herkey#1 · 08-07-2008, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by ban basketball

People also need to remember that if they just wrestled within their conference and a couple of other tougher duals throughout the year, they could pad their record to be one of the top teams every year, simply by wins and losses. Rather, they deliberately wrestle a tough schedule, which gives people the impression of a "down" year.

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Ban, I realize that they wrestle a tough schedule year after year, but they never win any of those tough meets. I believe that they are in a situation where they could be consistantly in the top ten. They could at least be competitive with the Big ten and twelve teams. They don't even compete. It's a blowout every time.

Gold · 08-07-2008, 10:14 AM

I can't believe tOSU is only #5 when they are losing only Bergman. I'm not saying they will certainly finish higher than that, but there's no reason to think they won't. and how does the reigning #2 team who loses only one senior drop to #5?

ban basketball · 08-07-2008, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by goferphan

I have to disagree. I think Zach Sanders has a great chance to qualify for NCAA's and from there we will see. I put his chances of AA'ing at 33% give or take a few percentage points.

I said nothing about him qualifying. Of course he'll qualify, the Big 10 allows everyone and their dog to qualify, I just don't see him AAing yet. I could be wrong, but we'll see.

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