View Poll Results: Which Style is more Confusing?

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  • Folkstyle is more confusing! I dont get riding time

    6 17.65%
  • Freestyle is more confusing! Why did the guy who scored more points lose?

    28 82.35%
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    Default Re: Which is more confusing: Folkstyle or Freestyle?

    Terp, no need for alarm. Lost indicated that mental image was his alone, i.e, "That's just me".

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    Try coaching 5 year olds and trying to get them to line up properly so they aren't penalized or get them to not lock hands on top too. You will soon realize freestyle is less complex than folkstyle.

    In folkstyle you have to teach about 1000 things NOT to do, while in freestyle its about 5. Just lining up properly for a match can be a chore to teach kids that have an attention span of about 10 seconds. You also have to teach what moves are illegal so they don't cost a kid a point or the match. In freestyle they just stop the match and set you back up neutral. Its a lot easier to teach beginning kids freestyle because of this, when you're teaching folkstyle you are sitting there instructing more than the kids are actually doing moves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoSt View Post
    I'd rather watch two guys wrestle for 25 minutes and actually SETTLE the match one way or another, then see a referee grabbing a ball determine the outcome. I guess thats just me though

    I agree, but I'll say the same for a riding time competition (like how Pucillo beat Varner a couple years back). I dunno if FILA ever had endless OT, but in Canada we used to. Some of the best matches I've ever seen went about 15 minutes. I wrestled one of those once, too exciting to get tired.

    I'll add that losing the coin toss is NOT a sure fire loss either... yes the clinnch is an unfair position but athletes have got to learn to wrestle from the defensive position. Off the top of my head, some big-time matches that were won by guys that LOST the coin flip...

    Muradov beat Gatsalov in the Russian finals and won the Olympic final of the defensive position
    The previous year Gatsalov beat Muradov from a defensive clinch
    The year Zadick won his silver medal, he beat the Russian after losing the coin toss, then lost to the Iranian after winning the coin toss.
    At the US trails Zadick threw Gallick and Hrovat threw Lawal (twice) from the defensive position
    Martine Dugrenier got taken down while clinching the leg against Japan at the Olympics
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    In order to help you guys with your voting, I sat my 7yr old daughter down and explained the rules to her. The only time she didn't understand is when I started explaining Folk to her. She kept saying, "how come when they just roll around all over their backs they don't get points?" I'd explain it and she would always say, "that doesn't make sense." Keep in mind my daughter is pretty smart(straight A's) and doesn't wrestle.

    It took her two minutes to understand Freestyle.

    So to conclude, in a 7yr old can figure out FR more than Folk, then some of you probably are just to stubborn to want to understand them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WrestlingTerp View Post
    Conditioning is not longer a real factor in FILA.
    I think that's the #1 reason why people in the US don't like FR because the one thing that helped us become dominate, is really no longer a factor. People can blame all the rule changes all they want, but other than the push out, pts are still scored the same, don't turn him right away you're back on your feet and you can still pin them.

    BTW, I'd much rather have the clinches we have now than the stupid one that helped Rulon win. I mean breaking someone's grip to win a match, how frickin stupid is that.
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    [quote=wrastler118;210139]I think that's the #1 reason why people in the US don't like FR because the one thing that helped us become dominate, is really no longer a factor.

    Depends on the match. A hard 3 period match can be plenty exhausting. In fact, I found a lot of the 2 x 2 x 2 matches harder than the old 3 x 2 freestyle matches.

    At the last Olympics, conditioning defnitely played a factor. At 84 kg the Georgian champ gassed out the German, the Russian and the finals opponent (forget nationality) in sucession to win. Farniev, the Russian 66 kg, lost early largely because of conditioning.

    Standing around and stalling won't tire guys out, regardless of style. High-tempo matches can tire guys out regardless of the format.

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    Thats a good point.

    The Russian that Mindo gassed out was arguably the biggest favorite at any weight going into the tournament, but gassed out and got stuck.

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    Default Re: Which is more confusing: Folkstyle or Freestyle?

    [quote=arm-spin;210261]
    Quote Originally Posted by wrastler118 View Post
    I think that's the #1 reason why people in the US don't like FR because the one thing that helped us become dominate, is really no longer a factor.

    Depends on the match. A hard 3 period match can be plenty exhausting. In fact, I found a lot of the 2 x 2 x 2 matches harder than the old 3 x 2 freestyle matches.

    At the last Olympics, conditioning defnitely played a factor. At 84 kg the Georgian champ gassed out the German, the Russian and the finals opponent (forget nationality) in sucession to win. Farniev, the Russian 66 kg, lost early largely because of conditioning.

    Standing around and stalling won't tire guys out, regardless of style. High-tempo matches can tire guys out regardless of the format.
    I also posted this in the international foum.
    I really liked the tournament format they used in the Olympics, where they did one weight class at a time and did round after round with no break, right up to the semi's. Guys had three matches in two hours.
    Are most big time Freestyle tournaments held this way?

    I think this balances conditioning with technique. If your main strength is conditioning, you will not be able to win your first round match against someone with superior technique, because the rounds are too short.
    However, if you have great wrestler and are not in top shape by the time your third match comes around you will be gassed, and it will be against a better opponent. Ask Ketoev

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    Default Re: Which is more confusing: Folkstyle or Freestyle?

    I don't know about confusing, but you can have Freestyle. I'll take Folkstyle anytime. If we ever go to Freestyle and do away with Folkstyle,
    I won't be following wrestling any longer. I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling this way !!!!

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