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Old 05-23-2008, 06:21 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Default Re: Forget Nickerson. Now your boy Ness is gonna get it!

Alot of Ness's strength comes from his leverage and knowing how to use it
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Old 05-24-2008, 08:59 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Default Re: Forget Nickerson. Now your boy Ness is gonna get it!

How much does Ness bench press?
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Old 05-25-2008, 07:43 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Default Re: Forget Nickerson. Now your boy Ness is gonna get it!

Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
According to the "Ness weighs 146" thread, and some other places it certainly seems likely.

In terms of him having trouble with the returning AA's, you mean guys like Gomez and Fanthorpe?
Was thinking in particular: Slayton(or Dennis if he comes back at 133), Gomez for sure, Mike Grey and James Kennedy. Those 4 guys IMO will make it tough for him to make it to the finals and depending upon the draw, to be in top four.

Don't get me wrong, I think Ness is a great, exciting wrestler, and I'd love nothing better than to see him on the top, but recent history shows us that top, relatively small guys have a hard time moving up as in Lange and Gillespie...

hope that I'm wrong
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Default Re: Forget Nickerson. Now your boy Ness is gonna get it!

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How much does Ness bench press?
I recently read somewhere from a well established wrestling expert that lifting weights is not important to wrestling strength.
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Default Re: Forget Nickerson. Now your boy Ness is gonna get it!

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I recently read somewhere from a well established wrestling expert that lifting weights is not important to wrestling strength.
But it helps with the girls......
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Old 05-25-2008, 03:16 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Default Re: Forget Nickerson. Now your boy Ness is gonna get it!

So you're now a well established girl expert?
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Default Re: Forget Nickerson. Now your boy Ness is gonna get it!

Now THAT'S funny....a professional 3-pointer!!!

Maybe if Big spent less time on trying to create contraversies on line and spent more time developing social skills, he might some day be as knowlegeble about girls(or anything) as he is about wrestling............

Naw......won't happen.............
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Default Re: Forget Nickerson. Now your boy Ness is gonna get it!

I'm anxious to see Ness at 133 next year, if he does indeed chose to go at that weight. It's always a surprise each year to see how those who decide to move up a weight end up doing. For Keaton Anderson former Ohio State Buckeye, he couldn't have made a better choice. He looked better conditioned, healthier and stronger at 157 than he ever did in prior years at 149. He took it to Luke Becker in one of the first matches of the season 12-2 or something similar, then to top that off he defeated Gray Maynard for a Midlands Championship. Anderson was on fire and if it wasn't for a Torn ACL he might have won a national championship.
Damion Hahn's move up to 197, was also a smart move.

However, sometimes moving up can prove to be a mistake. Take a few 141 All Americans from 2007, who decided to move up to 149 in 2008. Ryan Lange and Don Fisch. Lange, at 141 finished at the BIG 10's 4th-2nd-1st. At the NCAA's he finished
R12-4th-2nd. His final year he bumped up to 149, and and at the BIG 10's finished 7th. At the NCAA's he went 1-2. Fisch, went from 5th as a junior to 0-2 as a senior. Moving up a weight class, was not smart for either one of them.

It just depends on so many factors. I personally see Ness being a lot like Gregor Gillispie was when he moved from 149 to 157. Still quite the butt kicker, but with a little more competition. Or maybe he might be like Phil Simpson the year he moved from 141 all the way up to 157. Went from taking a very strong statement 3rd place as a sophomore, to going 3 overtimes with Matt Lebe just to call himself an All American as a junior. Came back to 149, to finish 2nd as a senior.
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Originally Posted by TLV View Post
Was thinking in particular: Slayton(or Dennis if he comes back at 133), Gomez for sure, Mike Grey and James Kennedy. Those 4 guys IMO will make it tough for him to make it to the finals and depending upon the draw, to be in top four.

Don't get me wrong, I think Ness is a great, exciting wrestler, and I'd love nothing better than to see him on the top, but recent history shows us that top, relatively small guys have a hard time moving up as in Lange and Gillespie...

hope that I'm wrong
I mentioned Gomez and Fanthorpe specifically because Ness wrestled them both at 125 when all three were RS freshmen. Ness was 3-0 against them.
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Default Re: Forget Nickerson. Now your boy Ness is gonna get it!

Originally Posted by Big View Post
How much does Ness bench press?
Actually, Ness doesn't practice doing anything from his back, much less bench pressing.

People that practice from their back must be used to being there.
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