Martin Misses The Boat

LoSt · 05-15-2008, 05:16 AM

I'll admit that flo not getting an award is kind of bs (I just read that blog entry) but martin isnt doing much to help his causes with posts like these. Sometimes life gives you lemons and you just have to ignore them and go wrestle.

Or post on message boards.

goferphan · 05-15-2008, 07:41 AM

Wow, Martin seems like the kid who is going to take his ball and go home.

Funny thing about that kid, most people didn't want to play with him anyway and there was always someone else with a ball.

Dart Shark · 05-15-2008, 09:33 AM

I've actually showed him how I gather results and enter them into the InterMat system.

I have physically said, "Here is an e-mail from an SID, here's the system I enter it, it doesn't pull from the NWCA's results database."

TheWrestlingTalk gets e-mailed the results from the NWCA OPC section just like Rev, The Wrestling Mall, W.I.N., AWN and flowrestling. Both Rev and TWM have used the results e-mailed to them. Themat.com just links to InterMat's results page. Earl posts dual results and links over to the InterMat box score.

Why do I still enter them into a separate system? Time. For example, I can't wait for Tom Brands or one of his staff to log their OPC info when the match just ended. I get the release from the SID or the live text coverage (if available). Sometimes folks wait a day or two to log this information. If InterMat relied on the NWCA results "mandated" database, scores would be 2-3 days behind in some cases.

That doesn't make for good "news" or a site with the most updated scores.

We even have, in our office, an document Flo agreed to in regards to results and stats.

The same results on TWT were sent to Flo, and none showed up. The stat releases which were released each week after January 1 were sent to EVERY major wrestling/national outlet in the country. The Associated Press, USA Today, the NCAA, all the wrestling sites and writers, all the coaches, all the Sports Information Directors ... I know many schools used these for additional wrestling releases. Trying to get the AP to run anything outside of the "big four" is a pain. All that information was also free.

Again, guess who was included in that list and didn't post them.

Just a tidbit about the results, which has been a constant point of deception and misinformation.

If anyone ever wants the real facts, they can contact us. To date, only ONE wrestling fan has actually e-mailed me about the baseless allegations tossed around and aimed at the NWCA and InterMat. It just doesn't make sense for an organization to get into debates with people who have the intent to deceive and slander without any accountability.

WrestlingTerp · 05-15-2008, 10:39 AM

Ahh, for the older, and simpler, days of waiting for the latest issue of AWN to arrive in your mailbox to find out the results....about two weeks after they occured.

Schlottke · 05-15-2008, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by LoSt

I'll admit that flo not getting an award is kind of bs

Why? IllinoisMatmen covers wrestling in Illinois extremely well. I honestly believe they deserved the award. Us a close second, of course.

LoSt · 05-15-2008, 01:42 PM

I dont follow illinois wrestling so I cant comment on that but flo has by far the most coverage of any site out there in terms of interviews and matches. Where else can you watch highschool nationals right after they happen?

Personally though Im still pissed that I didnt get an award for "most drunken hobo".

Maybe I should write a nasty blog?

JensenS · 05-15-2008, 01:48 PM

Flo didn't get the award because they don't follow the regulations set down by the organization that presents the award.

LoSt · 05-15-2008, 01:55 PM

Regulations are for sissys

JensenS · 05-15-2008, 02:01 PM

One could say publicly whining for validation is for sissies too.

fanforlife · 05-15-2008, 02:08 PM

If you want to be recognized as a credible media outlet you have to follow the rules, that were in place way before you got there.

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