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Old 05-10-2008, 04:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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My college coach always said that the wrestle-offs helped determine who the starter was, but he also factored in your performance at the early season tournaments. If the guy that won the wrestle-off consistantly went 0-2 at tournaments while the other guy would place or win 3-4 matches the guy that lost the wrestle-off would most likely start.

Very rarely do you have these types of situations at the high school level. My team will probably have some instances of some good wrestlers wrestling off for spots next year and the head coach and I have already talked about putting the best wrestler on the mat, which might not necessarily be the one that wins the wrestle-off.
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Old 05-10-2008, 04:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I think that wrestle-offs are one tool that coaches should use in deciding their line-up, but they are not and should not be the be all and end all. Was IU really hurt by having Becker in their lineup?
Of course not -Becker is a stud . The point I am making is they charged admission to this thing and Young was behind 4-3, escaped and tossed Becker -I know it is hard to sit a 2x AA-but Scott Kelly just got wailed on by Pelton[who was a top 10 nationally ranked senior and a great coup for IU to steal him away from OSU]-Kelly finished 12 -16 and 141 was a glaring weakness in the roster .

i e-mailed Goldman , DeBerg and the wrestling Dept.in general and have heard nothing .
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The issue comes up when a coach has a wrestling room stud and a meet day bust. I knew guys like this. They were different wrestlers in the wrestling room then they were on meet day. Weird.
They are called room wrestlers and it is a very common occurence . AS a coach you do everything you can but some kids just turn fish when they leave the room .
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I agree that wrestle-offs is the way to pick a starter, but I don't think you can pick a starter based on one match.
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They are called room wrestlers and it is a very common occurence . AS a coach you do everything you can but some kids just turn fish when they leave the room .
That's all mental too. All of it's mental. I was one of those people. In practice I could tango with just about anyone, but never could get the job done in actual competition. It was because I was too worried, scared and just took the whole fiasco way to seriously.

It's also why I usually beat kids in freestyle that I'd lose to in folkstyle. It's because Freestyle was just for fun, no big deal win or lose. I'd go out and try crazy things like cement mixers, japanese arm spins and spladles. In folkstyle competition, I wrestled so damn scared and conservative cause I didn't want to lose.

I'd go to practices all over the place and often held my own with some top caliber talent(Iowa State place winners). If only I could have wrestled in matches like I did in practices.

Moral of the story: Wrestle to wrestle, don't do what I did and walk out on the mat terrified of not being good and wrestle not to lose.
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I wrestled in Canada and we had a scheduled "wrestle-off" day right on the Calander, held shortly before the post season. On shortly before that day everyone picked the weight they wanted to compete at, and we set up a mini-tournament to determine the winner. I understand it's a different system in the states with more dual meets and less flexibility to change weight classes, but our way worked pretty wll for us, and no controversy.

For regular season dual meets or tournaments where not everyone went, the coach chose the athletes.
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I wrestled in Canada and we had a scheduled "wrestle-off" day right on the Calander, held shortly before the post season. On shortly before that day everyone picked the weight they wanted to compete at, and we set up a mini-tournament to determine the winner. I understand it's a different system in the states with more dual meets and less flexibility to change weight classes, but our way worked pretty wll for us, and no controversy.

For regular season dual meets or tournaments where not everyone went, the coach chose the athletes.
I'd like to know more about wrestling in canada. I remember hearing a little about it from Bret Hart's perspective. Before he became a professional wrestler, he was a fairly good freestyle wrestler. Other than a few things he said about his amateur wrestling career, I don't know much about wrestling in Canada.

Is it a school sport? Does Canada have sports through high schools, like the United States does? I know in some countries all sports are non school affiliated. They are club only. How does it work in Canada?
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