Stardust

tell me something I don't know.

I thought the ?'s were because you were surprised they had a low rating.

"if you can't go to college, go to State" *clap clap*

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r.payton@att.net

Every time I see a picture of Myles Brand I damn near go into a psychotic rage --firing Knight , the only Basketball coach w/out an ncaa infraction . Although they did suspend steve Alford for one game for posing for a sorority calender whose proceeds went to Riley's childrens Hospital.

What would any of you do if some punk kid walked up to you and said 'how they hanging '-I would have knocked the little bastard out -oh well -Sampson left such a trail of slime in his wake IU may never recover . GOOD.

WhippetGrappler

APR is bogus..... Ohio State did not make in Basketball due to their last 2 starting centers (Freshmen) quit going to school and made themselves eligible for the draft.

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r.payton@att.net

I feel your pain but you guys knew what'shisname from Lawrence north would only stay a year -that kid is an idiot. I know alot of teachers at LN and not one has a good thing to say about him-ODEN -that's his name-how he ever scored high enough on his SAT's is beyond me .

RYou

No, that my friend is why they tag schools in the formula for athletes that leave early. The NCAA is throwing up hurdles for teams that buy championships with players that have no intent on finishing school. When it happens enough, TOSU will feel the pain when they they have a couple scholarships tagged by the NCAA. It will force Ohio State and every other school to rethink who they signing up. Give it away to too many and they will get their Buckeyes whacked.

WrestlingTerp

The hypocrisy kills me.

First there is the big outcry about high school kids going straight into the NBA so they say they have to attend college for year. Not that many make it and it IS a disservice to the young players. But THEN the NCAA introduces the APR that penalizes schools for signing these kids that want to leave after a year anyway.

And this whole mess is forced on equivalency sports like wrestling where one athlete getting book money that quits counts against the formula.

Dart Shark

Git'em Terp!

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grapplefan

Some sports and some schools have a miserable record of student academic performance and graduation rates. This has to change. As I see it, colleges need to recruit students who can handle the academic work. If you can't, you shouldn't be a student at that institution. Making an cottage industry out of academic support for under-prepared student athletes isn't the answer either.

That basketball or football programs at certain schools get away with murder doesn't justify poor performance in other sports. If the current system of APRs doesn't solve the problem, then the NCAA should develop another that does. All I know is that a team where the ALL the students consistently perform acceptably won't have problems with any system that's proposed.

When the schools I've attended don't perform acceptably, I write the Athletic Director about it.

r.payton@att.net

The A.D. at IU is the problem -interim coach Dakich kicks two clowns off the b-ball team -the AD is behind him 100%. They go and hire Crean and now the AD wants to wait and see if the kids improve their attendance in class and their GPA's . Crean kicks them off again-the AD supports him 100%.
Now here is Dan Dakich -an Indiana guy -played for Knight and has run clean programs everywhere he's been -Now his dream job is staring him in the face -all he has to to is let 2 starters slide for a copla weeks and the job ,for at least a few years is his -what does he do -the honorable and right thing to do -he tosses those idiots -what is his reward -He is now unemployed -I'd share a foxhole with Dakich anytime.

WrestlingTerp

If the measure was truly about academics that would be fine. But this isn't. For instance we had a wrestler transfer from Maryland with a 3.5 GPA because he wanted to be closer to home. We are penalized under the APR for this.

Recruiting is hardly an exact science. You recruit an athlete who has a good high school GPA and good SATs. They are required to attend study hall sessions as freshmen until they can prove the are able to handle work at the college level. But the kid refuses to go to class and flunks out after a year. By all indications the kid should have succeeded academically but, short of the coach escorting him to class every day, there is only so much you can do.

As for basketball. If an athlete has exhausted eligibility, is in good academic standing but still short of a degree, but has an opportunity to play professional basketball in Europe for well over $100k per year....what do you do?

Also consider that every school doesn't grant credit for the same things nor do they have the exact same academic calendar. For example, Duke's semester ends nearly one month earlier than Marylands so their bball players only have to go to class for another couple of weeks after the season and can then enter the recruiting combines. Add to that that Duke grants credit for summer overseas basketball tours of Europe while Maryland doesn't.

This is another example of the NCAA forcing a one size fits all "solution" on member institutions in an effort to whitewash the problem.