I understand it is called more conservative at the championships because no one wants to decide the match but this was at whole new level.
1) No stalling points were ever taken. A few warnings were given out but no one took a point.
2) There was absolutely no inforcement of when the bottom wrestler stood up, that the top man needed to return him to the mat. The top wrestler could stay behind him standing or grab a leg and get draged across the mat and the referees did nothing.
3) Fleeing the mat was not ever called.
4) There was zero consistency on calling out of bounds. It wasn't one point in bounds and it was ok.
5) The second referee must have just been there for moral support cause even when the main ref blew a call, it was never changed by the second. I think the second was just there to tell the first ref what a good job he was doing. They were not doing a good job.
Hopefully I wont get another pink reputation for this but the officiating was bad. I do not know how someone who was there for three days could disagree. No one in section 103 would disagree.
I understand it is called more conservative at the championships because no one wants to decide the match but this was at whole new level.
1) No stalling points were ever taken. A few warnings were given out but no one took a point.
2) There was absolutely no inforcement of when the bottom wrestler stood up, that the top man needed to return him to the mat. The top wrestler could stay behind him standing or grab a leg and get draged across the mat and the referees did nothing.
3) Fleeing the mat was not ever called.
4) There was zero consistency on calling out of bounds. It wasn't one point in bounds and it was ok.
5) The second referee must have just been there for moral support cause even when the main ref blew a call, it was never changed by the second. I think the second was just there to tell the first ref what a good job he was doing. They were not doing a good job.
Hopefully I wont get another pink reputation for this but the officiating was bad. I do not know how someone who was there for three days could disagree. No one in section 103 would disagree.
I guess you weren't watching the same thing I was watching on television. I saw 2 stalling points awarded in just one match. Fleeing was an issue though!!
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Last edited by WhippetGrappler; 03-24-2008 at 07:23 PM..
I understand it is called more conservative at the championships because no one wants to decide the match but this was at whole new level.
1) No stalling points were ever taken. A few warnings were given out but no one took a point.
2) There was absolutely no inforcement of when the bottom wrestler stood up, that the top man needed to return him to the mat. The top wrestler could stay behind him standing or grab a leg and get draged across the mat and the referees did nothing.
3) Fleeing the mat was not ever called.
4) There was zero consistency on calling out of bounds. It wasn't one point in bounds and it was ok.
5) The second referee must have just been there for moral support cause even when the main ref blew a call, it was never changed by the second. I think the second was just there to tell the first ref what a good job he was doing. They were not doing a good job.
Hopefully I wont get another pink reputation for this but the officiating was bad. I do not know how someone who was there for three days could disagree. No one in section 103 would disagree.
From what I saw on TV, I agree completely with items 2-5, especially #5.
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Fleeing has always been called even less consistently than stalling. As a result when it's called, i.e. Poeta, everyone is shocked. I even saw Metcalf fleeing the mat in defense of a shot. However, if it hasn't been called all season, then it shouldn't be called in the finals.
I agree with you. Refs are too scared that they are going to be the deciding factor in the match. It almost would be better if they just stop calling stalling altogether for the finals. Stall warnings were called inconistently and usually when it was too late in the match. I almost could see the ref thinking when the man on top was stalling in the third period, well I didn't call it in the 2nd, so I can't call it now.
From what I understood from the TV commentors (not always the best source) the 2nd official essentially is supposed to do nothing. He is not needed to confirm the calls and is not expected to and does not have the authority to overule missed calls or even to advise on close calls.
the ref's do as good a job as they can get away with and even though that is really bad would you prefer going back to OT ref criteria -half these silly people have never read a rule book in their life's . Lately , the quality has been so much worse in Freestyle summer matches that unless I am threatened by force I won't attend a summer tournament .
What happend to the officiating? 
I saw 2 stalling points awarded in just one match. Fleeing was an issue though!!
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