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    I don't doubt that someone may someday become the second person to go unbeaten for 4 years. That said, I'm still wondering when the next 4x champion will appear?

    I agree that there was an element of luck involved with Cael's feat. However, I don't think it had to do with strength of competition. What's amazing is that he went 4 years without a single significant injury. When you consider everything that can happen in the hours of practice and in those 159 matches, it takes a measure of luck to stay healthy through all of that.


    I have no idea what Sports Illustrated would consider a greater achievement than Cael's record. I'd guess they picked the streak by UCLA in the early 70's in basketball, or the multiple unbeaten seasons by Oklahoma in football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flop The Nuts View Post
    My guess is that there are a few people currently playing football or basketball that may have had the ability to go undefeated if they had chosen wrestling.
    But would they have the guts? My guess is that most roundballers wouldn't last one season in any serious wrestling program. The physical condition of Division I wrestlers is a whole level higher than that of those who play Division I basketball and football.

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    First, Hahn was a shadow of himself at 184, where Sanderson beat him. Second, Hahn also didn't have super tough people to beat when he won 2X at 197. He beat Trenge by a point and Trenge had no luck in the finals. Then he beat Fulsaas from Iowa who wasn't even on the map until his final year and was seeded like 10th.

    Cormier was a first time finalist when Sanderson beat him. I believe he placed 7th the year before.

    All I am saying is that the cards fell in Sanderson's favor every time he won NCAAs. He didn't go undefeated by facing opponents that gave him OT matches and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    In all fairness sure Cael Sanderson was outstanding but the conditions for such a feat were also one of a kind. None of the wrestlers Sanderson beat I believe at NCAAs were actually NCAA champions before Sanderson graduated. In other words, he didn't have the likes of Gutches, Smith, Brands, Gable, or Williams to beat.
    Big, that is one of the dumbest arguments you've ever made (but you aren't the only one to do so).

    How could Cael wrestle a former champ if he was the one taking the cake every year? The fact there wasn't a former champ in his weight class when he was a freshman, means the class was weak? Hardly. In addition, as already mentioned, to wrestling Cormier (a classic final) and Hahn, His freshman or soph year, he beat Brad Vering who subsequently moved up a weight to win an NCAA title. Oh, and another future world medalist, Brandon Eggum also fell short of title hopes because he had to face Cael.

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    matclone,

    Cael's freshman year there was no defending champion in the weight. He beat Jones iin the finals who got teched the year before in the finals with Clark. How can a weight be superstrong if one guy teched another guy in the finals the year before?

    When Cael moved up to 197 once again there was no defending champion there. Hartung and Fulhart both graduated by then. Robison as well.

    I am almost positive Sanderson would have at least one loss if he had to face Fulhart, Robison, and Hartung at 197.

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    This being ONE of his goals, I'll throw Tyler Graff's name in the mix!
    So, to answer your question, I'll have to say.......Soon.

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    Oh, and Cael also beat future NCAA champ Rob Rohn in college.

    Oh, and Cael did beat past NCAA champ Fulhart while he was still in college. 2001 Midlands.

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    it's also not beyond the realm of possibility that Cael's weight class might have been weaker cause wrestlers were running away from him
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    Quote Originally Posted by matclone View Post
    Oh, and Cael also beat future NCAA champ Rob Rohn in college.

    Oh, and Cael did beat past NCAA champ Fulhart while he was still in college. 2001 Midlands.
    What was the score when he beat Fulhart at Midlands? I bet it wasn't a major or a tech. Anyway, that was almost 3 years after Fulhart graduated. He was concentrating on freestyle.

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