ISU vs Wisconsin Predictions/Results

ISU2008 · 01-15-2008, 09:47 AM

125: Cudd dec Clark 3-0 WI Clark looked good at Duals for being a true freshman but still has a lot to learn.
133: Fanthorpe dec Tanelli 3-3 Fanthorpe is on a tear after losing to Ruggs.
141: Ruschell dec Gallick 6-3 WI
149: Mueller dec Vogel 6-6
157: Henning dec Sanderson 9-6 WI Sanderson is banged up and didn't look great this weekend
165: Reader dec Donar 9-9
174: Scott dec Peterson 12-9 ISU
184: Varner dec Brandvold 15-9 ISU
197: Bertolino dec Herbst 18-9 ISU Bert had a tough time at Duals losing to the #2, #3, #5, #10 guys, but he can pull this one out.
285: Zabriskie dec Massey 21-9 ISU

JensenS · 01-15-2008, 11:56 AM

125: Cudd dec
133: Fanthorpe dec
141: Ruschell dec
149: Mueller dec
157: Henning dec
165: Reader maj
174: Scott dec
184: Varner dec
197: Herbst dec
285: Massey dec

16-15 Iowa State. Closer than I thought it would be in my head, although I'll admit that picking Massey over Z might be a little bit of a stretch.

ISU2008 · 01-18-2008, 10:29 PM

125: Clark dec Cudd 7-6
133: Fanthorpe dec Tanelli 11-4
141: Ruschell dec Gallick 6-0
149: Mueller tech Vogel 20-5
157: Henning dec Sanderson 6-5
165: Reader fall Clum 1:13
174: Scott dec Peterson 7-3
184: Varner maj Brandvold 14-2
197: Herbst fall Bertolino 4:34
285: Massey fall Zabriskie 4:19

The night started off good, and closed crappily.

125: Match started out like Reader/Fay I. Clark TD, Cudd reversal, Clark reversal, Cudd reversal. Clark stayed in there and rode decently tough when he was on top and pulled out the win with riding time. Best win for him so far.

133: Fanthorpe was in control from the start, and was 1 second away from a major. He looked really good on his feet, just needs to get a little better on top.

141: Gallick did not look good tonight. He hit a sweet throw in the first but it was out of bounds. But the whole match he looked tired. I don't know if it was his weight or if it was anything, but he did not look like himself.

149: Mueller looked great against a lesser opponent. At the end he was broken and just walking into takedowns. Great job by Mueller to keep the pressure on. Side note: Mueller's intro music is Billy's Squire's "The Stroke", which, I don't know if I realized it before, but that's going to be my intramural softball intro music.

157: No doubt about it, I'm picking Cyler next time. He kept shooting his single, and every time they would get in the position where Cyler had Henning's foot by his head and was flat on the mat, and Henning was about doing the splits with his other leg behind Cyler. Four times this happened. Finally they got scrambling and Sanderson got towards his back and Henning scissored the head with no call (no TD had been called) then eventually he got back points counted (I still don't remember him giving the TD). Long story short, next time shoot a double. Afterwards, amidst a chorus of boos, Henning puts his hands up motioning at the crowd like a poor sport. Davis was pissed. Allen was pissed. Anyway, Cyler wins next time.

165: Jon Reader is not 40 but HE IS A MAN!!! I never get tired of watching him wrestle. Comes out, takes his guy to his back, gets the fall.

174: Scott continues to improve. He is wrestling more aggressive than I've ever seen him wrestle. He's got a nice throw-by takedown where when the other guy shoots, he lowers his level and throws them to the side and spins around for the TD. He hit it a couple times tonight.

184: Varner is intimidating. He just doesn't back down. He got after it and got 4 stalling points. Still would have got the major without them but he was just punishing on top. Just looked great from start to finish.

197: Bert went out and got after it right away, but he needs to start finishing these matches like he starts them. 197 has at least 10 real tough guys and he needs to start beating some of the guys he's ranked behind.

285: I thought Zabriskie would take it to Massey, but Massey got on top and there was no getting out. Just turned him and finished it. Not a good end to the night.

I'd say tonight was kind of like getting with a hot chick, then finding out from your friends that she only hooks up with nerds, which is why she got with you. It starts off good, and you think you're going to come out way up, but then ending just ruins it.

BadgerGuru4 · 01-19-2008, 03:49 AM

I see we have some 'Clone colored glasses, granted you can gloat about undoubtedly outwrestling Wisconsin as a team. However, that so called "scissors" that everyone was freakin' out over started off as a LEGAL figure 4, where Henning earned all nearfall, and then it slipped down to a scissors. Sanderson received the penalty point he deserved, and the match went on. I must admit though, I was very impressed with Sanderson's ability to keep control of Henning's leg while Henning attempted to crotch-lift. A great piece of coaching by Cael and co.

Slight correction at 165--Reader gave up the TD. He was able to take a fairly-high risk roll? (don't remember clearly) to reverse Clum to his back for the pin.

Overall the Cyclones looked ready to wrestle at a higher level than the Badgers, especially in the lower weights.

Sidenote: Mike Allen had fans puzzled all over the board on both sides tonight, as he seemed to one time call a situation stalling on the bottom, then the next time stalling on top, and then follow that with a stalemate. Well, which one is it?!

ISU2008 · 01-19-2008, 11:06 AM

It's my understanding that in the figure 4 the foot has to be behind the knee, from where I was sitting, it definitely looked like it was on his calf.

Forgot about the TD at 165. It didn't mean much in this match, but if he wrestles Perry again or someone who can ride him, not giving up a TD will be crucial.

I thought Allen was quick with his stalling calls, even for him, most of which seemed to go against the Badgers on the bottom.

What did you think of "Jake Varner, ranked number 1 in the world!!"

BadgerGuru4 · 01-19-2008, 01:01 PM

I think they give a little lee-way on the figure 4, as it was mostly behind the knee.

Varner is a beast. There's really nothing else to say about him! I was quite impressed how he manhandled a talented #13 Brandvold like he was a small child. #1 in the world might be a stretch, but it's certainly an intimidating thought!

Wapiti · 01-19-2008, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by ISU2008

...Afterwards, amidst a chorus of boos, Henning puts his hands up motioning at the crowd like a poor sport. Davis was pissed. Allen was pissed. Anyway, Cyler wins next time.

I must comment on this...I've watched every one of Henning's matches through his college career, I cannot remember a time where he showed any kind of emotion, good, bad or otherwise. He is certainly not a poor sport and last night was a poor representation of his character. I imagine he was confused at what the booing was about, I sure was.

The true shame, IMO, is that the Iowa State fans booed at the end of that great match. It was a phenomenal match by two wrestlers with opposite styles. Henning did nothing to deserve being booed at.

I had a perfect view of the scramble, Henning never touched his legs, it was neither a scissor or a figure-4. As soon as he did touch his legs (in a scissor) Sanderson was rewarded a point. In a situation like that the ref can start to count back points before rewarding a takedown.

ISU2008 · 01-19-2008, 02:32 PM

I agree the booing was out of place. From what I heard, I think they were upset that Cyler was initiating all the action and Henning was just reacting, and no stalling was called. Personally I don't know what I would have called but I could definitely see where it wouldn't be called. Booing was the wrong reaction, it was a good match. Like I said, I think if Cyler wrestles smarter and stays away from the single, or at least mixes in a double or some other shot, he will win next time.

The Varner thing was what they said when they introduced him before the match, I couldn't believe they said it, just thought it was funny.

BadgerGuru4 · 01-19-2008, 05:38 PM

Yup, I caught that Varner comment too.

Another sidenote: that is a sweet board where the announcer and other media personnel were sitting. I also like how ISU utilizes their regular video board to replay certain match events in between periods.

goferphan · 01-19-2008, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by ISU2008

125: Clark dec Cudd 7-6
133: Fanthorpe dec Tanelli 11-4
141: Ruschell dec Gallick 6-0
149: Mueller tech Vogel 20-5
157: Henning dec Sanderson 6-5
165: Reader fall Clum 1:13
174: Scott dec Peterson 7-3
184: Varner maj Brandvold 14-2
197: Herbst fall Bertolino 4:34
285: Massey fall Zabriskie 4:19

The night started off good, and closed crappily.

125: Match started out like Reader/Fay I. Clark TD, Cudd reversal, Clark reversal, Cudd reversal. Clark stayed in there and rode decently tough when he was on top and pulled out the win with riding time. Best win for him so far.

133: Fanthorpe was in control from the start, and was 1 second away from a major. He looked really good on his feet, just needs to get a little better on top.

141: Gallick did not look good tonight. He hit a sweet throw in the first but it was out of bounds. But the whole match he looked tired. I don't know if it was his weight or if it was anything, but he did not look like himself.

149: Mueller looked great against a lesser opponent. At the end he was broken and just walking into takedowns. Great job by Mueller to keep the pressure on. Side note: Mueller's intro music is Billy's Squire's "The Stroke", which, I don't know if I realized it before, but that's going to be my intramural softball intro music.

157: No doubt about it, I'm picking Cyler next time. He kept shooting his single, and every time they would get in the position where Cyler had Henning's foot by his head and was flat on the mat, and Henning was about doing the splits with his other leg behind Cyler. Four times this happened. Finally they got scrambling and Sanderson got towards his back and Henning scissored the head with no call (no TD had been called) then eventually he got back points counted (I still don't remember him giving the TD). Long story short, next time shoot a double. Afterwards, amidst a chorus of boos, Henning puts his hands up motioning at the crowd like a poor sport. Davis was pissed. Allen was pissed. Anyway, Cyler wins next time.

165: Jon Reader is not 40 but HE IS A MAN!!! I never get tired of watching him wrestle. Comes out, takes his guy to his back, gets the fall.

174: Scott continues to improve. He is wrestling more aggressive than I've ever seen him wrestle. He's got a nice throw-by takedown where when the other guy shoots, he lowers his level and throws them to the side and spins around for the TD. He hit it a couple times tonight.

184: Varner is intimidating. He just doesn't back down. He got after it and got 4 stalling points. Still would have got the major without them but he was just punishing on top. Just looked great from start to finish.

197: Bert went out and got after it right away, but he needs to start finishing these matches like he starts them. 197 has at least 10 real tough guys and he needs to start beating some of the guys he's ranked behind.

285: I thought Zabriskie would take it to Massey, but Massey got on top and there was no getting out. Just turned him and finished it. Not a good end to the night.

I'd say tonight was kind of like getting with a hot chick, then finding out from your friends that she only hooks up with nerds, which is why she got with you. It starts off good, and you think you're going to come out way up, but then ending just ruins it.

i have no problem with the hot chick getting with me even if she thinks im a nerd...thats never been a problem for me

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