In the interest of talking about another team other than the gophers...

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The allstar classic made me think of something. Mike Tamillow started for the Wildcats as a freshman at 184, his season ended much like Franklin Gomez's did at the Big Tens, not making it to the big dance. He had a more than respectable season all things considering.

The following year, he was back at 184 because Matt Delguyd was a senior and I believe a 4 year starter at 197. I feel like Tamillow was cutting a lot of weight to stay at 184 for the good of the team and would probably benefitted heavily from a redshirt year if for no other reason than to not have to make that weight. (he wrestled well at 211 in Freestyle, winning the university championships I'm pretty sure)

My question is, looking at the success Mike had at 197 last year, does anyone think that Delguyd's presence held Tamillow back from becomeing at least a 3 time all american? Or should the Senior been allowed to keep his weight class. Keep in mind, I don't know what their competition in the room was like and I'm aware of the rediculous cutting Herbert was doing during that time period as well.

Any takers?

Mike

Sorry, I thought I had a title to the post, when I previewed before I posted, it must have taken it away, It should have read, Non-Gopher talk.

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Gee, maybe they flipped a coin to see which drops to 184.

Originally Posted by Schlottke

Or should the Senior been allowed to keep his weight class.

If the only factor in the decision is his age, definitely not. It certainly should be gaged on who the better person for the job is.

Thanks for fixing the title whoever did that.

The factor certainly should be whoever is better for the job, but we've seen this point be proven on other teams as well. Like I stated earlier, I don't know what the head to head results were in the room but another good example of this would have been at Illinois two years ago with poeta and Tirapelle.

Rumor had it that Poeta was getting the better of Alex in the room (a few other threads on both the other forum and an Illinois board, I'm not an insider, hence rumor) yet Johnson had Tirapelle, a senior keep his spot and Poeta, the freshman, bump up to 165. That cost them at the NCAA tournament, but was better for Duals. Poeta could have had the opportunity to be a four time all american at 157. its kind of the same thing.

But alas, its woulda, coulda, shoulda, and I know hind sight is always 20/20.

It was better for NW as a team that year to go Herbert/Tamillow/Delguyd despite the fact that Herbert and Tamillow were both pulling a lot of weight. Don't recall if Delguyd ever AA'd, but he was always a tough opponent for anyone. Herbert wound up making the finals anyway, and Tamillow had a solid year.

Delguyd never AA'd. I think he was one or two matches away that year. He was tough and in a dual meet situation, he certainly was not a weak link. I just read a lot of places, especially today on all the allstar threads about everything being practice for March.


It seems like possibly a double edged sword to say that it is better for the dual season to have a guy start, but then have every match be practice for the Tourney.