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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    It is merely an opinion and a prediction. That is what he asked for. If I'm wrong, so be it.

    Flop, I get the Pennsylvania reference and it should make a difference. I just didn't like what I saw in his matches and interviews. Like I said, just a gut feeling.
    I get it, but think saying your "gut" on a 17 year old without any knowledge of him speaks more to your character than his. JMHO of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker View Post
    I get it, but think saying your "gut" on a 17 year old without any knowledge of him speaks more to your character than his. JMHO of course.
    So you're not allowed to have an opinion about a 17 year old? At what age is it allowable to form an opinion about someone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snackem View Post
    So you're not allowed to have an opinion about a 17 year old? At what age is it allowable to form an opinion about someone?
    calling a 17 year old a prick without ANY knowledge of the truthfulness of that characterization speaks to the maturity level of the poster. You don't agree? Do you walk up to random kids and call them pricks? Do you walk up to anybody and call them pricks? Then don't be in such a hurry to do so anonymously either.

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    I think I'm with Tucker here..

    Also, if he's a prick or an angel, I don't see how that correlates to being a bust or a successful wrestler. Plenty of "jerks" get on the top of the podium.
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    With as much hype as he has got it will be extrememly hard to "live up to the hype". There are so many ways that things can go wrong and realy only multiple NCAA championships will meet expectations.
    Look at Cary Kolat and Damion Hahn, two of the best HS wrestlers ever, who also had a ton of hype, and although they both were national champs there still seems to be a feeling that they did not fuflfill expectations
    And Hahn got his 2? Nothing wrong with THAT career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKreisel View Post
    Grajales did a little more than wrestle in Florida. His prep bio from the Michigan Wrestling Roster page is below...

    "Graduated from Brandon High School (2009) ... Named South Region and Florida recipient of the 2009 Dave Schultz High School Excellence Award ... Named Mr. Florida as the state's top prep wrestler ... Garnered the Tampa Tribune's 2009 Male Athlete of the Year award ... Four-time Florida state champion (2006, '07, '08, '09) and five-time state finalist ... Career prep record of 217-0 and, adding seventh- and eighth-grade results, went 292-6 over six years ... Named the Most Outstanding Wrestler at the 2009 Dapper Dan all-star event ... Two-time FILA Junior World team member (2006, '07) ... Claimed fifth place (55 kg/121 pounds) at the 2008 Greco-Roman Senior Nationals ... Four-time Fargo Greco-Roman national champion (2004, '05, '06, '08), earning outstanding-wrestler honors in 2006 ... Also named the 2006 Junior Greco Wrestler of the Year ... Two-time FILA Cadet Greco national champion (2004, '06) ... FILA Cadet freestyle champion (2004)."
    we discussed not to long ago the merits of big time recruits from non-wrestling states. Eric Grajales was a name brought up. I would explain my reasoning why I think he is struggling but I don't want to open up that can of worms again haha. In terms of Greco hurting his career, I doubt it, but he has always been a Greco and throws type of guy. Him, little Mango, and Thiekle have always been considered American Greco's future stars
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    Grajales competing in Greco would be a perfect fit for me as a viewer. I don't enjoy his style, and I haven't watched greco since Karelin lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goferphan View Post
    And Hahn got his 2? Nothing wrong with THAT career.
    He had victories (I am pretty sure it was two) over NCAA champs when he was in HS. A feat like this leads to huge expectations.
    Reread the part that said they had a great careers but failed to live up to some people's expectations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    I think I'm with Tucker here..

    Also, if he's a prick or an angel, I don't see how that correlates to being a bust or a successful wrestler. Plenty of "jerks" get on the top of the podium.
    I don't get the vibe that he will take direction well. I also don't get the vibe that he will take any sort of failure well. Those are things that I also don't think Grajales did well. Like I said, I'm basing it off of things I've seen on flo. I thought this question was asked to everyone. I had no idea I had to spend a week getting to know them before I gave my opinion. But I stand by my opinion. Time will tell if he proves me wrong.

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