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  1. 03-16-2013, 11:07 PM #28
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    Didn't he lose two matches he was favored last year (including the final)? I think that's where it comes from. Also has missed weight (or bumped up, I dunno) in freestyle and then lost a few times, including against Chamberlain by agonizing boredom. FILA Junior Freestyle Challenge Tournament Final 66kg - Jason Chamberlain vs. Jordan Oliver - YouTube

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  2. 03-16-2013, 11:45 PM #29
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    He's not been Jordan Stalliver since his freshman year. He's the number two lock to win a championship, but not by far, behind Ruth this year. I really like him, which is weird, because his freshman year, I really couldnt stand him much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    Percentage wise 11-9 is closer than5-3.
    ODH busting out the wrestling math. Nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by arm-spin View Post
    Didn't he lose two matches he was favored last year (including the final)? I think that's where it comes from. Also has missed weight (or bumped up, I dunno) in freestyle and then lost a few times, including against Chamberlain by agonizing boredom. FILA Junior Freestyle Challenge Tournament Final 66kg - Jason Chamberlain vs. Jordan Oliver - YouTube
    For what its worth this match was after Oliver's underwhelming (for him anyway) freshman year. I remember watching that match when it happened.
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  5. 03-17-2013, 10:48 PM #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    I feel like there's a lot of "JO underperforms" sentiment, and I can't help but be completely baffled.

    He had an up and down Freshman year and at NCAA's he placed 4th behind 3 absolute studs. He devastated everyone his sophomore year, and lost in very controversial fashion not being given a takedown his junior year. A position I have seen two given at least 15 times since that match. Also, Logan Stieber, he's kind of good.

    Since that match, he's steamrolled everyone up at 149 including the 4 seed. So I don't get the underperform stuff.
    I didn't realize his 6-4 win over Ness where he ran the last 15 seconds was a steamroll. I guess we have different definitions of steamrolled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldengopher View Post
    I didn't realize his 6-4 win over Ness where he ran the last 15 seconds was a steamroll. I guess we have different definitions of steamrolled.
    I love statements like this. What exactly is the smart call in a close match with short time? Just because he didn't Dan Dennis it doesn't mean he was running.

    Oliver is 33-0 with 17 pins, 3 techs and 8 majors. Overall Oliver has been very dominant at this weight, just barely off the pace he was setting 2 weights down. Always beware of hanging your hat on close losses.
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  7. 03-18-2013, 06:41 AM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldengopher View Post
    I didn't realize his 6-4 win over Ness where he ran the last 15 seconds was a steamroll. I guess we have different definitions of steamrolled.
    Well now you know.
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    I predicted Ness over Oliver, so I don't think Oliver is a lock at all.
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