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    How Cutting Wrestling From the Olympics May Impact NCAA Wrestling for the Best - Forbes

    I think he has quite a delusional perspective and am stunned a wrestling coach could say some of the things he's said here.
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    VAIS, I agree. I think he is simply choosing to make those comments with no real basis.

    One impact I am very, very curious about is what happens to all of the regional training centers when wrestling is no longer an olympic sport.

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    The title is very misleading. He does have some good points - especially the evidence that college wrestling is as popular as ever.

    On a different subject, but one that this article makes me think is that we need to do is get Russia, Iran, and other wrestling powers to add folkstyle. The addition of more types will expand the involvement and make wrestling stronger. I know other countries have po-poo'd folkstyle before, but now that we are all in a sinking ship fighting for survival they may want to reconsider their positions.

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    My perspective is that Koll is trying to paint a positive picture of college wrestling. I think he's trying to counteract a potential snowball pessimism about wrestling, saying that collegiate wrestling will continue to do well regardless. Yes, it's perhaps about overly so, but I think that is his agenda--to counteract downward spiraling negativism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomWright25 View Post
    My perspective is that Koll is trying to paint a positive picture of college wrestling. I think he's trying to counteract a potential snowball pessimism about wrestling, saying that collegiate wrestling will continue to do well regardless. Yes, it's perhaps about overly so, but I think that is his agenda--to counteract downward spiraling negativism.
    Agree, Tom. There may be some denial going on, but calling his comments delusional may be going a little too far. He's trying to stay as positive about this as he can. This battle is going to have to be won a step at a time.

    While I don't see how the IOC decision could ever help the sport, I'm not sure how much it will hurt it, at least in the near future. The biggest thing I am worried about is non-supportive AD's at colleges using this as a lame excuse to cut wrestling programs and in my opinion we will see some of this happen. My take on the sport in this country is that it is doing pretty darn good at the youth level right now, which in my book is more important than how it is doing at the Olympic level. 99.99% of the kids and coaches involved in wrestling now (from high school down) won't stop because it is no longer an Olympic sport. The vast majority of American wrestlers exclusively wrestle folkstyle; it is our "thing" and will continue to be.

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    I don't see anything wrong with koll's statements . And , if given a choice between wrestling being in the Olympics or having title IX overturned , I'd take overturning Title IX every time.
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    I don't think it's delusional at all. A bit overly optimistic maybe but his points are valid. Not sure why you're so stunned by this Vais.

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    Loss of Olympics is devasting for international wrestling.
    For NCAA wrestling, it probably does not hurt that much. Look at a sport like Lacrosse, that is growing and doing well and has no pretensions to be an Olympic sport.

    Dropping wrestling probably hurts the IOC's repuatation more than it hurts the NCAA wrestling.
    Having Olympic medalists as alumni did not prevent wrestling from being cut from Fresno State, Indiana State, Clemson,

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    Regardless of this article, does anyone like Rob Koll? Maybe I have a false perception on this but it doesn't seem like any fans outside of the fingerlakes like this dude

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