13 ranked wrestlers is fine. But you shouldn't just get the number 2 ranking through attrition. He never had one win that merited him jumping the likes of Perry/Evans.
Tom you follow the Altons closely im sure. So, without watching them all the time, have both Dylan and Andrew always had issues with their gas tanks? I realize that they took significant time off after their ordeal, but I also remember them gassing in previous years too. Seems to me that is their main weakness because all the tools are there.
A lot of the tools are there, i wouldnt say "all." They both have their vices on the mat
In that instance, he was trying to cut too much weight, and they rightly red-shirted him for the year and he never even thought about 141 again. Since then, I have thought that he has typically looked good at the end of matches. I really can't recall him having tank issues at a reasonable weight.
In his freshman year, A Alton looked great for the first half a year at 141, but admittedly, he was pinning a lot of people early. Then really started struggling late in the season - especially getting off bottom. Conventional wisdom was that he was struggling with the weight, maybe still growing, but also because he was going through his first full season of cutting weight. Again, conventional wisdom said he would be fine at 149 this year (with the RS in between).
I'm actually more concerned about him now. Sueflohn was a tough match-up for the first match back, but AA absolutely died in that match and really has not looked good finishing any matches. Not that my eye is that good, but he doesn't look like an oversized 149 pounder, so I would think that he should be handling the weight pretty well. The fact that he is still struggling (sometimes very badly) late in matches has me worried.
One difference between the two is that AA tends to go out fast and really try to get his throws in, so he is typically really active in the first period. DA is more of a match control guy, so I thin he uses up less early on - so it makes sense that he is finishing better. But AA shouldn't look as bad as he does in the 6th and 7th minute.
I think people are mistakenly assuming that Dylan does not have tank issues because it doesn't look as cartoonishly bad as Andrew's gassing looks. Dylan definitely seems to lose something near the end of the matches. Fortunately for him, James Green is more in the vein of what Andrew does. :)
I'm not saying that Dylan's tank issues are devastating to what he does in the match. He just seems to be more sluggish and slow and breathing heavy by the third period often, to me. Andrew's issues are obviously catastrophic when he's facing top competition.
DA was said to have wind issues last year. But in general I don't think that's true. He's won a lot of bouts late--Green multiple times, Jones, Sanjaa, Welch etc.
What do I think? I think AA in particular gets him self over-pumped at times before matches and starts to burn himself out before the match starts (in key bouts). I don't think he has a fundamental conditioning problem. I think there must be something else going on too, but don't know what that is. I don't really think DA has any real gas tank issues, and I've been quite encouraged with him this year.
I was just wondering as it does seem that at least AA gasses quite a bit. And DA looked like he gassed against St John this year too. If they could keep high energy for 7 minutes I think they win a title one year as much as I hate to say it. They are very talented. And I agree Vais, maybe not ALL the tools, but definitely enough.