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    Andrew wrestled his last match against Burroughs on one leg and will power ! He had surgery shortly after the match . And VAIS is correct and so is Ranger 84 as Howe INJ DEF out against Polz yet first heard the Hamstring "POP" against Burroughs .
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    After Howe's competitive loss to Burroughs, he went Pin (Rasmussen), Tech (Bubby Graham), MDEC (Pete Yates), and DEC 8-3 (Cody Yohn). I find it hard to believe that he was badly injured at that point. He gave Burroughs a good match (took him down once, maybe twice?). There's no need for the legend to be blown up more than it is. Howe is a bad mammajamma and has done better against BUrroughs than maybe anyone in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    After Howe's competitive loss to Burroughs, he went Pin (Rasmussen), Tech (Bubby Graham), MDEC (Pete Yates), and DEC 8-3 (Cody Yohn). I find it hard to believe that he was badly injured at that point. He gave Burroughs a good match (took him down once, maybe twice?). There's no need for the legend to be blown up more than it is. Howe is a bad mammajamma and has done better against BUrroughs than maybe anyone in the world.
    Never said he was BADLY injured when he lost to Burroughs 10-7-he simply heard the hamstring pop and wrestled through it until he went down against Polz-and remember, EVERYONE, including Davis , said AH was done for the year yet Howe came back and took 3rd -I've always wondered if Howe feels pain the same way as most people do or is just that tough ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by r.payton@att.net View Post
    Never said he was BADLY injured when he lost to Burroughs 10-7-he simply heard the hamstring pop and wrestled through it until he went down against Polz-and remember, EVERYONE, including Davis , said AH was done for the year yet Howe came back and took 3rd -I've always wondered if Howe feels pain the same way as most people do or is just that tough ?
    Howe's DAD was adamant that he was done for the season saying...definitively that his son WOULD not wrestle again that year. As where his teammates. His Doctors said that he wouldn't wrestle again that year or wouldn't able to.
    As it got closer, Davis started saying anything's possible. As it stands he went out and wrestled Caldwell...who's proven he's a pretty damn talented wrestlers and got upset by him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    Pretty sure that the Burroughs/Howe match is not the one he tore his hamstring.

    Scratch that. I KNOW it wasn't the match he tore his hamstring. It was against Polz. 5 matches later. If you're going to spout off, check your facts.
    Scratch that, you don't KNOW a thing. The Howe-Burroughs match was ABSOLUTELY the match in which he initially hurt his hamstring.

    If YOU'RE going to spout off, perhaps YOU should know YOUR facts. That he continued to wrestle is as amazing as the fact that he ended up coming back and wrestling at the D-1's that year.

    Though it's pretty impressive you can determine when an injury happened by looking at a bracket sheet. That's truly impressive. Again, Iowa fans....is there ANYTHING you don't know?
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    Soooooo...that Alan Waters is pretty good huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    After Howe's competitive loss to Burroughs, he went Pin (Rasmussen), Tech (Bubby Graham), MDEC (Pete Yates), and DEC 8-3 (Cody Yohn). I find it hard to believe that he was badly injured at that point. He gave Burroughs a good match (took him down once, maybe twice?). There's no need for the legend to be blown up more than it is. Howe is a bad mammajamma and has done better against BUrroughs than maybe anyone in the world.

    There's nothing being blown up here.

    As for the scoring,
    1st period;
    Burroughs hits Howe with that double early 2-0 Burroughs
    Howe escape 2-1
    Burroughs stall warning-Burroughs had some type of blood issue and used up 1-2 minutes in the 1st.
    Burroughs hit a snatch single right off the whistle and scored another TD 4-1

    2nd
    Burroughs escape 5-1
    Howe TD 5-3
    More blood time-30-60 seconds
    Burroughs reversal right at the end of the period 7-3
    Howe shoots him off the mat several times, or just flat out pushes him off. One reason I don't like the idea of adopting the international "push-off," rule.
    3rd-
    Howe gets ridden for a while, keep going out of bounds;
    About 30 seconds left
    Howe escape 7-4
    Howe immediate TD 7-6
    Howe cuts Burroughs 8-6
    Burroughs stalling 8-7
    (Howe is noticeably limping by this point in the match).
    Burroughs 1 point for another false start by Howe 9-7

    Burroughs ends up getting riding time 10-7.

    Burroughs jumps out to the lead and I think really catches Howe by surprise. It wasn't just quickness, Burroughs wasn't exactly a skinny guy or built like someone like Perry. He was pretty damn physical himself.

    I don't know how much blood time he used, but I thought it was about 3-4 minutes and he looked gassed throughout the match.

    I believe Burroughs is the best Freestyle wrestling in the world right now. I think Howe has a CHANCE to beat him, but I absolutely believe if the two would have wrestled-HEALTHY again in a 7 minute match, Howe would have worn Burroughs down.


    Now Howe cut bait and left UW when things got tough, so I really have no love lost for him at all. But watch that match again and tell me that you don't believe that match at the very least would have been a whole lot closer a second time around. Howe was caught off guard and Burroughs is maybe the most athletic and impressive athletes and college wrestlers I've seen in a long time. But I think that Burroughs is more suited for international competition(and I'd LOVE to see the guy get into MMA). But I still believe that Howe was the better collegiate wrestler. And lets not forget, Howe's got another year left of college before he's done as he's using the redshirt year he never used this year.

    That of course is because he blew out his knee wrestling Burroughs again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger84 View Post
    Scratch that, you don't KNOW a thing. The Howe-Burroughs match was ABSOLUTELY the match in which he initially hurt his hamstring.

    If YOU'RE going to spout off, perhaps YOU should know YOUR facts. That he continued to wrestle is as amazing as the fact that he ended up coming back and wrestling at the D-1's that year.

    Though it's pretty impressive you can determine when an injury happened by looking at a bracket sheet. That's truly impressive. Again, Iowa fans....is there ANYTHING you don't know?
    Well you certainly seem impartial..
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