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    Beavers currently leading 15:6 thanks to falls from Sak and Pena, Mangrum also with a win.
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    Came down to heavyweight tied 18-18 after a come back in the upper weights by Minnesota.

    Nelson beat Hanke 4-3 deep into the TB periods.
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    That is what I heard. I was really hoping that Morhead would come through against Ortiz. I didn't see the match but that loss hurt.

    Did you see the match?

    How did OSU look at 125 and 133?
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    125-David Thorn (UM) dec Joey Palmer (OSU) 12-8SV
    133-Chris Dardanes (UM) dec Drew Van Anrooy (OSU) 11-6
    141-Mike Mangrum (OSU) dec Nick Dardanes (UM) 7-6
    149-Scott Sakaguhi (OSU) fall Thane Antczak (UM) 1:30
    157-RJ Pena (OSU) fall Danny Zilverberg (UM) 2:27
    165-Cody Yohn (UM) maj Alex Elder (OSU) 16-5
    174-Alec Ortiz (UM) dec Austin Morehead (OSU) 7-5SV
    184-Kevin Steinhaus (UM) tech Ty Vinson (OSU) 22-7
    197-Taylor Meeks (OSU) dec Scott Schiller (UM) 8-2
    285-Tony Nelson (UM) dec Chad Hanke (OSU) 3-3RTTB
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    Palmer had a big lead on Thorn. Caught him in a headlock so he was up 7-1. Thorn dug deep and took it to overtime and almost got the fall.
    Mangrum could barely walk off the mat he was so tired. He used the choke headlock twice to buy time with a stalemate.
    RJ Pena ran an arm bar on Danny Z that was one of the best I've ever seen. Incredibly tight.
    Steinhaus picked up a tech fall by getting 5 or 6 takedowns in the last minute.
    Schiller might not be as good as Minny fans think
    Hanke out wrestled Nelson.....

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    RJ Pena ran an arm bar on Danny Z that was one of the best I've ever seen. Incredibly tight.
    Schiller might not be as good as Minny fans think
    Hanke out wrestled Nelson.....[/QUOTE]

    Was at the match tonight and agree with you on most all of this. However, I have a different take on Schiller. I would say that Schiller showed way more effort from the feet but Meeks seemed to have more "mat savvy" when to defend against the single leg or shift slightly to defend positioning. I think the combination of more mat time as a starter and maybe bulking up his frame will help Schiller. The cheap NF he gave up bothered me, but the rest of the match probably will prove to be a good learning tool.

    Nelson's offense seems to be colateral damage while he tries to keep this winning streak alive. I hope he stops worrying about that and tapping into the freestyle success he had this summer.

    Steinhaus's last TD saved the ref from getting shredded by the crowd. Vinson was turtled up on the ground and steinhaus was 3-4 feet seperated from him. KS then spun around and the ref said no change meaning KS never lost control. Iffy call but it didn't affect the end result.....the refs this weekend did a tremendous job in my opinion.

    I would be foolish to think I know better than JRob how to handle the roster, but I'm a going to anyhow. Enough with the Danny Z experiment. Yes, he beat #12....is that where all of his fire went for the year? Dolezal showed more fight and scrappiness in losing to a far superior Welch last night than DZ has at any point this season. Dolezal tries creating offense....DZ steps back and sets his forearm on hit knee waiting on the other guy to move. Ugh

    We really need the team to get healthy. Storely should be ready to go for the Scuffle. Ness's continued abscense is of great concern, but that's not an earth shattering statement.

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    Ness's continued abscense is of great concern, but that's not an earth shattering statement.
    I notice you said absence, not injury. I also think the "back problem" is an euphemism.

    Discouraging night as ND, Cody, Ortiz, and KS only bright spots. We'll wait to see how the Thorn experiment plays out, but remember that last year he was 14-2 with 5 pins and 5 bonus wins, losing to JO and Soto in ot.
    I think JB summed up Schiller as being out hustled. He couldn't finish what looked like sure td's. He's still an AA candidate though.
    Nelson's counter/ride out strategy is working for him, but he's ripe for an upset. One point and ot matches are exciting to watch (well, not always), but he's living dangerously. Hanke was impressive with his athleticism.
    "He beat nobodies..Thorn at 133 won't be great, R12 or worse imo...
    I just don't see it...David Thorn is not elite. I don't think he'll place"

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckvader View Post
    Palmer had a big lead on Thorn. Caught him in a headlock so he was up 7-1. Thorn dug deep and took it to overtime and almost got the fall.

    Schiller might not be as good as Minny fans think

    Hanke out wrestled Nelson.....
    Thorn seems to be on a string right now where he's having some underwhelming matches after the crazy fast start.

    This match doesn't make me think any less of Schiller's chances, but maybe because thats because I think Meeks is good. Even though he didn't make the podium he had a bunch of good wins last year, and he just beat Haynes last weekend.

    Out wrestled or not out wrestled Nelson got the W, coming off a win over the guy who killed him last year last week I've got to say right now I'm more than satisfied with how he's wrestling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    Thorn seems to be on a string right now where he's having some underwhelming matches after the crazy fast start.

    This match doesn't make me think any less of Schiller's chances, but maybe because thats because I think Meeks is good. Even though he didn't make the podium he had a bunch of good wins last year, and he just beat Haynes last weekend.

    Out wrestled or not out wrestled Nelson got the W, coming off a win over the guy who killed him last year last week I've got to say right now I'm more than satisfied with how he's wrestling.
    Maybe it's because his crazy fast start was not that big of a deal considering the season Bonanno is currently having.
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