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    Default Maryland and probably Rutgers joining the BigTen

    Looks like the 2014-2015 season will see the bigten get even deeper in wrestling talent.

    I know the mainstream sports media will be talking about how this affects football and basketball, but I'm thinking that this is a big shot in the arm for both wrestling programs. I'm of course assuming that Rutgers will be official soon.

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    Not good news for the ACC in wrestling, not good at all

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    Sucks. At least Pitt is a good team that will be there soon.
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    True, this is not good at all for ACC wrestling. However, they'll still have 6 teams with Pitt.

    It certainly gives both Rutgers' and Maryland's programs some stability and should help with recruiting.

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    UGH! Neither bring much of anything to the conference (that I care about). Both are ok for wrestling (if you look very recently), but do they raise or lower the average talent level in the B10?

    Obviously Maryland basketball is typically good, but very little else. I might be extra biased because my least pleasant experience with fans were Maryland fans.

    Rutgers? Really???

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBloodLion View Post
    UGH! Neither bring much of anything to the conference (that I care about). Both are ok for wrestling (if you look very recently), but do they raise or lower the average talent level in the B10?

    Obviously Maryland basketball is typically good, but very little else. I might be extra biased because my least pleasant experience with fans were Maryland fans.

    Rutgers? Really???
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBloodLion View Post
    UGH! Neither bring much of anything to the conference (that I care about). Both are ok for wrestling (if you look very recently), but do they raise or lower the average talent level in the B10?

    Obviously Maryland basketball is typically good, but very little else. I might be extra biased because my least pleasant experience with fans were Maryland fans.

    Rutgers? Really???
    Really....RUTGERS !

    While the impact will not be immediate, it should impact the exodus of top tier NJ talent to others in the Big Ten, SEC and Pac-12 both in wrestling and football. Even though Rutgers has had some success in football and and some good talent in wrestling, by far the majority of top recruits in both have hightailed it out of state. 2-3 years Rutgers will be competitive on the football field and will be visible on the B10 mats. The impact on B10 will certainly be greater on the gridiron. With RU keeping some matmen at home, it will hinder other B10 recruiting. Guys like Caldwell, Russell, Burroughs, Molinaro are more likely to wrestle at home in front of family than heading elsewhere.
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    Here's the new B1G conference alignment, once Rutgers formally announces of course.

    Illinois moves into the Legends Division

    Leaders Division - Indiana, Maryland, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers, Wisconsin

    Legends Division - Illinois, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern
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    Quote Originally Posted by RYou View Post
    Really....RUTGERS !

    While the impact will not be immediate, it should impact the exodus of top tier NJ talent to others in the Big Ten, SEC and Pac-12 both in wrestling and football. Even though Rutgers has had some success in football and and some good talent in wrestling, by far the majority of top recruits in both have hightailed it out of state.
    Yes, and as a Penn State fan, I would like that to continue. PSU has recruited NJ, Maryland, and northern VA really well (primarily speaking football here - NJ has been solid for wrestling) and I want that to continue. I think this does help a few people stay home (as you mention), but I think more needs to happen to really keep them home...


    Quote Originally Posted by RYou View Post
    2-3 years Rutgers will be competitive on the football field and will be visible on the B10 mats.
    I think this is REALLY optimistic. Like blindfold on optimistic. RU had a couple good years thanks to a surge from Schiano, but he couldn't sustain it and now he is gone. Those seasons now look a lot more like a flash in the pan than a glimpse of the future. A big part of RU's success on the football field in the last 3-4 years has been a pathetic competition level in the Big East. It will take a lot more than just joining the B10 for RU to become a regular competitor for, say, a division title.


    Quote Originally Posted by RYou View Post
    With RU keeping some matmen at home, it will hinder other B10 recruiting. Guys like Caldwell, Russell, Burroughs, Molinaro are more likely to wrestle at home in front of family than heading elsewhere.

    I am assuming that RU has had the full complement of scholarships available. If they have not, and joining the B10 means they will increase the scholarships they offer, then we will see a change on that alone. Assuming they have been fully funded, I don't see much impact on the top level guys coming out of NJ. I think they will still have their pick of the top level schools and will continue to head to the programs that have shown them the best possibility for their own success. I think we'll see the second level recruits choosing RU a bit more since they can stay near home, wrestle in the B10, and get a better financial deal (in-state tuition plus partial scholarship).

    I think the bigger impact in RU recruiting and success is bringing in coaches like Molinaro- guys who have had great success at the NCAA level. I think kids will say they want to go wrestle for him. Him DEFINITELY being a Jersey guy helps too. Bottom line - I think the coaching staff is the most important factor - not the conference.

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