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    Keystone Classic ‏@2012Keystone Champ Finals: 197 - Perry (Bloomsburg) vs. Hecox (Brown), Heavyweight - McMullan (NW) vs. Chalfant (Indiana)

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    1h Keystone Classic ‏@2012Keystone
    Champ Finals: 165 - Harger (NW) vs. Santiago (Rider), 174 - Munster (NW) vs. Brundage (Rider), 184 - Croy (Harvard) vs. Bethea (Penn)

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    1h Keystone Classic ‏@2012Keystone
    Champ. Finals: 141 - Cobb (Penn) vs. Oster (NW), 149 - Tao (American) vs. Roosa (Bloomsburg), 157 - Welch (NW) vs. Hickman
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    Explain to me again why Keystone counts? Per our qualifications, the Bison Open, Harold Nichols and Navy Classic were far tougher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goferphan View Post
    Explain to me again why Keystone counts? Per our qualifications, the Bison Open, Harold Nichols and Navy Classic were far tougher.
    I take a little different view on this. Personally, I think that if a tournament has all, or a high majority(75%), of Div 1 teams then it should be counted. If we are going to score the Purdue v Callumet match in which one match was actually wrestled with 9 forfeits, then my Top 20 guy beating an unranked Div 1 wrestler should count. The Lindenwood Open counted due to having more than 15 guys, and I agree that it should count, but with Mizzou having 9 guys ranked and Ok State having enough guys ranked, two out of 30 teams provided the 15 ranked guys. So in a 32 man bracket you may have two ranked guys and 30 non D-1 kids and it counts, but the Keystone or Navy Classic which has all D-1 kids does not count.

    Just my 2 cents...

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    I am excited about Cameron Croy being in the finals, I've known him for as long as I have known Ryan Konz. I remember one year at the camp we all went to (and Konz and Croy are counselors at now) every single coach who came in was recruiting Croy and wrestled with him (Greg Strobel and Lehigh, Zeke Jones and Penn, Duane Goldman and Indiana, and finally Brian Smith and Missouri). Marchetti was there that year too and he isn't doing too bad at West Point this year.
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    Croy loses in SV-Chalfant beats McMullen 5-3 .
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    Default Re: Champ finals at Keystone

    Levi Mele lost too
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    So did my boy Mark Rappo

    We are counting this because it was on our list of tournaments we were going to count, although I agree that it probably didn't deserve to be counted
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    I think next year instead of arbitrarily adding some and not others we just go to the straight 15 ranked and or past AA wrestlers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goferphan View Post
    I think next year instead of arbitrarily adding some and not others we just go to the straight 15 ranked and or past AA wrestlers.
    I've thought about this, but I think it would make drafting too frustrating and luck based since it would be very difficult to know which tournaments counted and which wouldn't beforehand.

    I like the way we do it now. Even if a tournament ends up sucking, at least everyone knew it was going to count and could draft accordingly. And if a tournament is stronger then expected we'll count it via the 15 guys rule

    I would vote to boot the keystone off the scored list for next year however
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