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    I know this sounds stupid at first but why not recruit internationally ? The 17-8 year olds over there have much more technique off their feet and stick a red shirt on one and give him a year to acclimate to folkstyle -worked for Barnes and it is working for the Mongolian kid from George Mason-and there is no way Dudziak got his style from a high school coach -he's Eastern european all the way .
    That German kid who beat up on Escobedo on youtube -Why not offer him a ride ?Would you rather have some 17 year old who is a 2 time State champion or a guy who has competed against the best in the world for 4-5 years ??

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    I would think that there are some major logistical problems with that. Language barriers, travel costs for a coach to make a visit, the fact that most kids in europe probably dont even know what folkstyle is.

    And who is to say that Europeans want to come to school in the U.S.? Their education system is usually better then ours in the first place.

    Still an interesting thought though
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    Oklahoma State used to recruit some great Japanese wrestlers. I wonder why no one does that any more.

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    Checkout collegiate track & field and tennis, particularly women's tennis....chuck full of recruited foreign athletes. That's why they give special A-A status to Americans that finish outside 8th.

    I know for a fact, the Syracuse women's tennis coach holds 2 weeks of summer camp over in France and invites foreign ladies with an enticement of a SU scholarship. A couple of years ago one of the west coast teams won the NCAA team title with 7 aliens in the starting line-up. Grrrrrrrrr.
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    In the NCAA there are two types of women's tennis programs. All foreign players or a mixture. The US players know which schools are all foreign and generally avoid them.

    We have a fair number of Aussies that play women's lacrosse for us at Maryland.

    As for the European systems of education, it is somewhat apples and oranges. Most students have to test at 16 to determine if they are going into a trade or continuing on. That is part of the reason that comparisons with US high school graduates is misleading. An upper school graduate in England is roughly equal to a US college freshman, but they've already eliminated a lot of kids via their O level exams.

    Also athletics are generally via club programs in most of the World. So recruiting a great wrestler from Europe may be difficult because they may not be able to gain admission to a US school. Add student visa issues, etc.

    Finally, how would you feel if your local college team had a roster of only Eastern European wrestlers? I suspect few would attend and our grass root efforts would die out. Go ask the alumni and boosters to support THAT!

    Take a look at the University of South Alabama's women's tennis team to see if you would give a crap....they are all Czech or Dutch the last time I looked.
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    I am not saying load up your team with a bunch of Kenyans to win a championship for you in cross country -but if you need a kid and their is a European available -give it a shot -I went to school with Morten Anderson and he'd never seen a football until he came to Ben Davis as an exchange student-first day in gym class he was booming 50 yard field goals-and at IU Yeagley routinely recruited Superstar socccer players from south of the border .
    The Japanese love college here as it is 20 times easier -but dudziak was sure as hell not coached in America so why not ?I watched that Mongollian kis beat the hell out of alton Lucas as a freshman , and Lucas is a huge ,tough 174 lber . Then he damn near beat Miller -so if the Visa's are no problem , I say give it a shot .

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    Speaking of overseas...nobody recruits the DODDS kids. I know there has to be tons of talent going to waste yearly because of kids not being seen by schools due to parent's being stationed over there. As a military brat that lived in Baumholder, Germany I remember seeing kids get no offers.
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    Dudziak was US trained. He grew up on the mats in New Jersey. No, he wasn't a state recognized success. And, yes, he spent two years in Poland where he wrestled with a few club teams and entered some international tournaments. I think he's one of those kids that bloomed late as heavies go and has been building strength over the past few years.
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    I also think Clar Anderson deserves some credit for Dudziak. Yes he trained overseas and at the OTC but the coaches at Duke have done a lot for him too, on and off the mat and that shouldn't be discounted.
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