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Thread: Intermat Top 10 Wrestlers of 2000's

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    Technically, I don't think Abas and Sanderson should be on the list, as part of their careers were in the 90's, but that's a minor "glitch."

    For perspective, these are all of the four timers in the 2000's (exclusively), which four time status should have been the first consideration, to me.

    Travis Lee
    Nick Simmons
    Coleman Scott
    Nickerson
    Escobedo
    Jayson Ness
    Zach Sanders
    Johnny Thompson
    Ware
    Molinaro
    Percival
    Manotti
    Tannenbaum
    Gregor Gillespie
    Lance Palmer
    Luke Becker
    Bertin
    Hendricks
    Tyrone Lewis
    Perry
    Koscheck
    Askren
    Herbert
    Sanderson
    Hahn
    Rosholt
    Varner
    LeBlanc
    Phil Davis
    Simaz
    Rowlands
    Mocco
    Konrad
    5 Gophers on that list.
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    Speaking of Rosholt.. what is it with these guys who just turn it on at the most important time? Is it training? Psychology? pure adrenaline? And what keeps them from wrestling at that level all the time? Don't think Rosholt is an isolated case. Kyle Dake might be another example. Internationally we have guys like Velikov, Aldatov, and Cebi who quite frankly look terrible until the world championships a lot of the time.

    Funny thing about Rosholt is, that mental edge hasn't carried over into his MMA career as far as I know. Not nearly as good as a lot of other post-college wrestlers.

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    Dake actually probably isn't the best example. While he's always been at his best at NCAA's he still only has 4 losses in 3 years and two of those came at one tournament when he was a freshman.

    I get what you're saying though. Jaggers was another really good example of this. Didn't win a match for a month as a senior but still came back and won it when it counted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goferphan View Post
    5 Gophers on that list.
    That was back when the Gophers were good.
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    Dake actually probably isn't the best example. While he's always been at his best at NCAA's he still only has 4 losses in 3 years and two of those came at one tournament when he was a freshman.

    I get what you're saying though. Jaggers was another really good example of this. Didn't win a match for a month as a senior but still came back and won it when it counted.
    I thought Dake had more losses. Never mind.

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    That was back when the Gophers were good.
    Yeah, Sanders and Ness are ancient history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arm-spin View Post
    Speaking of Rosholt.. what is it with these guys who just turn it on at the most important time? Is it training? Psychology? pure adrenaline? And what keeps them from wrestling at that level all the time? Don't think Rosholt is an isolated case. Kyle Dake might be another example. Internationally we have guys like Velikov, Aldatov, and Cebi who quite frankly look terrible until the world championships a lot of the time.

    Funny thing about Rosholt is, that mental edge hasn't carried over into his MMA career as far as I know. Not nearly as good as a lot of other post-college wrestlers.
    You have to attribute it to a certain amount of it to luck as well. Rosholt was a very good wrestlers who did not have bad matches at NCAAs and many of the guys that "should" have beat him did collapse (Greg Jones his FR year). He was never the #1 seed at NCAAS and he never had to beat the #1 seed to win.

    In MMA he always looked horrible striking and I have read analysis that he was promoted to the UFC before he was ready.

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    In MMA he always looked horrible striking and I have read analysis that he was promoted to the UFC before he was ready.
    I could be wrong, but I believe that early in his MMA career he had the same management as Johnny Hendricks. I remember watching both of them on HDNet fights a couple of times and I'm pretty sure they both went to UFC at the same time. It worked out for Hendricks but not him. Although management got the same percentage.

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    I follow MMA very little, but I will say this about Rosholt: he's tough and can take a punch, especially for someone who hasn't been involved in the buisness of taking a punch for very long!

    I came from a family of boxers and was around it for all of my youth, so I've seen some guys take some punches in my day, but I saw one fight in particular of Rosholt's where he took repeated square shot after square shot and stayed up throughout all of it. Yes, people take some big punches from time to time, but he took one after another, and the guy hit him this way at will.

    By the end of the fight, though, his face looked like a road map, so it definitely showed.
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