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    I think you have Evans in about the right spot. His walking around weight is in the low 190s and a lot of his flat performances last year were a result of a tough cut. I think his style is better suited for 174 and think he will really be in the mix with the best of them when he finally does get a chance to wrestle there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1stplace View Post
    I'm not seeing it. He got taken apart by Burroughs at NCAAs and Howe was clearly not 100%. I really think Caldwell is a good bet to make the finals but I don't see him beating Taylor. As an Iowa fan I would be thrilled if he did beat Taylor...
    Burroughs took him apart in the finals because he was a better wrestler. I think everyone would agree about that. It doesn't mean that two weeks before that, Caldwell didn't shut Burroughs down offensively, and that he wasn't :20 away from a win before giving up a late reversal. He also beat Howe at NCAAs. You can say Howe was not %100, but Howe beat everyone not named Caldwell that he wrestled that weekend on his way to 3rd place.

    I would say Taylor is clearly the more accomplished folkstyle wrestler, but that doesn't mean Caldwell has no chance. Taylor may "take him apart" or he may be vulnerable depending on how the match goes. When Burroughs scored early he made Caldwell open up and he made it where Caldwell couldn't stall on his feet and win with top wrestling. If Taylor scored early Caldwell would be sunk.

    But if as a true sophomore Caldwell could hang around with a better wrestler (Burroughs), I think he is capable of hanging around (or beating) Taylor a full two years later. People just like to dismiss Caldwell based on style (or lack thereof).

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    This year Caldwell beat the Russian Malikov (3rd at their nationals), gave up no points to Howe (lost on clinches), placed 3rd at the Schultz (lost to Burroughs 1-0, 1-0). He's definitely shown he can stall it out against top notch wrestlers. Ask Howe or Burroughs if they'd rather wrestle Taylor or Caldwell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arm-spin View Post
    This year Caldwell beat the Russian Malikov (3rd at their nationals), gave up no points to Howe (lost on clinches), placed 3rd at the Schultz (lost to Burroughs 1-0, 1-0). He's definitely shown he can stall it out against top notch wrestlers. Ask Howe or Burroughs if they'd rather wrestle Taylor or Caldwell.
    ooohh, that's a good question. arm-spin, you definitely need to keep an eye on the college boards when you can. You bring good stuff.

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    Default Re: 2012-2013 Summer All American Predictions: 125-165 Posted

    Just saying that stylewise Caldwell came to the right place
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    174
    1. Andrew Howe (Oklahoma)
    2. Chris Perry (Oklahoma State)
    3. Jordan Blanton (Illinois)
    4. Nick Heflin (Ohio State)
    5. Logan Storley (Minnesota)
    6. Ethen Lofthouse (Iowa)
    7. Matt Brown (Penn State)
    8. Jimmy Sheptock (Maryland)
    R12. Tyler Wilps (Pittsburgh), Greg Zanetti (Rutgers), Lee Munster (Northwestern), Turtogtokh Luvsandorj (Citadel)

    Like I said earlier with it being apparently being confirmed by one of his coaches that Howe is going 174 next year he sits as a pretty significant favorite in my mind here so long as the knee that he injured in the Olympic Trials finals against Burroughs doesn't give him any issues. Oddly enough if it does he actually has a regular redshirt that he can use which is amazing given how long it seems that he's been around. Had a great Olympic year wrestling freestyle but that isn't really surprising as he's been one of the top two or thee guys at the 74 kilo senior level since he won US Nationals in 2010. Before he got hurt as a junior he'd really made significant steps in getting to his own offense and I expect him to get back there quickly and quash any possible "Howe is boring, he doesn't score" talk that might crop up early in the year.

    I know that I beat this into the ground every time I talk about him but despite his strong results, stylistically Chris Perry continues to baffle me. I used to talk about Zach Sanders and say "he is who we thought he is" after watching Perry wrestle for two years I'm pretty comfortable in going the other way to label him and say that "he isn't who we thought he was." Watching him wrestle age group and senior level freestyle events as a junior and senior in high school he was fun to watch. He had a great single leg that he used to really light guys up with including guys like Quentin Wright who he completely owned in freestyle. I don't think I've seen him shoot and convert a single leg in two years of folkstyle. He makes his bones on top more as a rider than a turner and then with a crafty and defensive style on his feet. Came down to this weight class last January after spending a year and a half at 184. It seemed odd at the time given that he was undefeated and had just assumed the #1 ranking after he beat Joe LeBlanc. While he's the highest returning placer here I don't like him against Howe next year.

    Blanton is a guy whose season last year I seemed to misperceive a little bit until I actually went and looked at his results. I had in my mind that he had struggled during the regular season and was basically left for dead before he came in and finished 4th last year at NCAA's but he actually had a good year. His issue is a pretty common one he didn't really have any bad losses (other than one to Curran Jacobs) but other than two wins over Munster before he got to NCAA's he didn't really have any marquee wins either. Much like Howe he's a wrestler who just likes to grind guys down. He's very gradually become more interested in wrestling on top and its benefitted him in All American finishes the last two years that he's wrestled a full season.

    While he's not a very exciting guy stylistically Nick Heflin to his credit generally gets the job done, he did so last year en route to a 5th place finish here as a sophomore. He's a tough guy defensively and he's a good match manager which allows him to win close matches pretty consistently. Had an interesting match last year against Ed Ruth that he actually had sitting at 7-6 going into the third period. Sadly for him Ruth outscored him 8-1 in the third period and wound up majoring him. He's here based on the strength of wins at NCAA's over the two guys that I have below him but given his tendency to wrestle things tight it wouldn't surprise me if one or both of them eclipse him next year.

    Super impressive start to his career last year by Logan Storley making the finals at Big 10's and then the semi's at NCAA's as a true freshman, he got blasted both times by Ed Ruth but it was awesome to see him there. Seemed to constantly find himself in exciting matches next year where he just kept grinding and would eventually find a way to win. Wrestles an aggressive style but seemingly last year just had trouble getting to his offense until he'd really been able to spend the entirety of a match wearing on his opponent. If he's able to improve his ability to get to his offense earlier he's a guy that could move up this list to at least 3rd.

    Lofthouse came into last season with a little bit more realistic expectations from his fans (and they may have even been too low given how high people were on Evans) and he lived up to those expectations getting himself up on the podium for the first time. Doesn't seem like he's ever going to be a guy who is super aggressive and blows people out with his "Iowa style" but to his credit he's found something that works for him. He definitely picks his spots but he can be sneaky as far as actually putting points on the board. He'll surprise you every once in a while.

    Given the firepower that they have and are going to have in their line up next year it speaks to the season that Matt Brown had last year as a back up that there are going to be a great many people this year who are very interested to see how he performs, me included. Made his greatest amount of noise last year at the Southern Scuffle where he finished as a runner up in a pretty tough weight class to his teammate Ed Ruth being one of the only guys in the country last year who held Ruth to a decision. Had several upset wins on his way to the finals the most noteworthy of which probably being his win over Storley. Later in the year he did some filling in at 197 and actually beat a couple top 20 guys there as well.

    Despite the fact that he wasn't an All American last year Sheptock had a nice year in his first season in the starting line up after being stuck behind either Asper or Letts and dealing with injury issues early in his career. Unfortunately I don't really have a ton to say about him here right now. He's a super solid wrestler and I like him based on his results last year and his in my mind still existing upside to fill this final spot here rather than the guys that I have in the round of 12. Was a semi popular upset pick against Lofthouse last year at NCAA's when they met in the second round but he wound up falling short 5-3.
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    Default Re: 2012-2013 Summer All American Predictions: 125-174 Posted

    Outside of Howe 174 lacks real star power but the amount of real solid wrestlers will make it reasonably tough. Between Heflin, Blanton, Lofthouse, Storely and Brown I feel like all of those guys are real interchangable at this point and any could make the finals against Howe. Looks like a tough grind it out weight. I'll take Storely to make the finals against Howe. He was good last year and I think he takes a leap forward this year. I also expect Lofthouse to finish ahead of both Heflin and Blanton. We shall see....

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    Look for Gambrall @ 174 this year for Iowa
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    I'd read that Gambrall might be done.

    Or was that just misinformation and theorizing and Jake Ballweg was the only guy who was leaving the team?
    RIP Jacob Schlottke - 1984-2011

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