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  • All-American

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  • All-America

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Thread: All-American vs All-America

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    Quote Originally Posted by RYou View Post
    Franklin Gomez is Puerto Rican.
    I know I've posted this before....

    In NCAA track & field, All-American applies to the top 8 "Americans". I have a friend who earned AA status this way.

    Keep in mind that this sport is loaded with foreign athletes from Africa, Jamaica, Bahamas etc. who come to the US to train and go to school.

    I believe cross-country has similar rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ground&Pound View Post
    I know I've posted this before....

    In NCAA track & field, All-American applies to the top 8 "Americans". I have a friend who earned AA status this way.

    Keep in mind that this sport is loaded with foreign athletes from Africa, Jamaica, Bahamas etc. who come to the US to train and go to school.

    I believe cross-country has similar rules.
    This sounds similar to the "placing" process at the great old Tbilisi tournament in the former Soviet Georgia. Only the highest placing USSR wrestler can officially place, with all other places going the the highest placing foreigners. Consequently, you can win two matches or so and take a silver or bronze at Tbilisi, even though 7 or 8 Soviet wrestlers were actually ahead of you. I took a bronze medal at Tbilisi but I never put it on my wrestling "resume", since I actually placed about 9th! This decision was quickly reinforced when you walk up to the podium, and see 10 or so bad ass Soviet wrestlers glaring at you and muttering about the pounding they gave you under their breath(s?). That medal came off my neck and into my pocket before my 2nd foot hit the floor coming off the podium !

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    Default Re: All-American vs All-America

    Quote Originally Posted by Ground&Pound View Post
    I know I've posted this before....

    In NCAA track & field, All-American applies to the top 8 "Americans". I have a friend who earned AA status this way.

    Keep in mind that this sport is loaded with foreign athletes from Africa, Jamaica, Bahamas etc. who come to the US to train and go to school.

    I believe cross-country has similar rules.
    Silly rule. So what do they call the foreign students who finish higher than the "All-Americans"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ground&Pound View Post
    I know I've posted this before....

    In NCAA track & field, All-American applies to the top 8 "Americans". I have a friend who earned AA status this way.

    Keep in mind that this sport is loaded with foreign athletes from Africa, Jamaica, Bahamas etc. who come to the US to train and go to school.

    I believe cross-country has similar rules.
    Are you sure? I just did a quick google search and see that three Irish athletes from Notre Dame were all americans....

    Three Irish Athletes Earn All-America Honors At NCAA Indoor Track & Field Championships
    Alyissa Hasan breaks school record in pentathlon, while Benninger and Watson shine on the track.
    "Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!?

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    I asked my friend again about this. He said the foreign athletes in the top 8 are considered All-Americans and so are the top 8 American athletes. He placed 9th overall, but one foreign athlete finished ahead of him, so they recognized all 9 as All-Americans.

    He believes the All-American status is tied to the US governing body of T&F (imagine USA Wrestling working with the NCAA to determine AAs).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ground&Pound View Post
    I asked my friend again about this. He said the foreign athletes in the top 8 are considered All-Americans and so are the top 8 American athletes. He placed 9th overall, but one foreign athlete finished ahead of him, so they recognized all 9 as All-Americans.

    He believes the All-American status is tied to the US governing body of T&F (imagine USA Wrestling working with the NCAA to determine AAs).
    You're right, I googled that yesterday, they do abide by their governing body rules.
    "Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!?

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    You achieve All-America honors; you are an All-American. Just my two cents...

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