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    Default Re: Is it time for Cornell to push the panic button?

    Quote Originally Posted by TomWright25 View Post
    I wrestled on the PSU team back when Dad Bill (Koll) was coach. He used to smoke a cigar and smile and call himself a "SOB"--"sweet old Bill". He was sometimes more like the normal understanding of those initials. Did you know that they made an NCAA rule because of him? Back when he was winning NCAA championships in the 40's he used to pick guys up. . slam them to the mat. . .wiggle them around. . .referee would slap the mat for a fall. . .Koll would get up and the opponent was lying unconcious on the mat. They made the illegal slam rule because of him. At least that's what I was told when I was on his team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    I have heard some stories...
    I have 2 particular personal memories of Coach Koll (Bill). After my best win in college his only words to me were to yell at me. And, he told me that my problem as a wrestler was that I wasn't mean enough.

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    Default Re: Is it time for Cornell to push the panic button?

    Bosak - in fact he is a senior and 2012-2013 will be his 5th year. 2008-2009, his freshman year, he wrestled in the Body Bay and Las Vegas Invitationals which do not count as official NCAA bouts. Under NCAA and Ivy rules those bouts did not consume an eligibility year.

    Below is from his bio on the Cornell website. You are correct, the Ivy League does not allow a red shirt. Since he was at the university in 2008 the only explanation is he was injured after the Vegas Open, requested a medical waiver from the Ivy League and received it. The Ivy is not totally stone cold, they do have a means for granting a fifth year of eligibility for medical reasons.

    Height: 5-11
    Class: Senior
    Hometown: State College, Pa.
    High School: State College Area HS

    NCAA Champion (2012)
    NCAA All-American (2011,2012)
    NCAA Qualifier (2010, 2011, 2012)
    EIWA Finalist (2011, 2012)
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    Second-Team All-Ivy (2010)

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    2011-12: "Bosak wrapped up an impressive 2011-12 season by winning the NCAA title at 184 pounds. The Big Red captain entered the tournament as the No. 4 seed and notched four wins to advance to the finals where he met No. 6 Quentin Wright of Penn State. .......Bosak will be back as a fifth-year senior for the 2012-13 season."

    Cornell University Athletics - 2011-12 Wrestling Roster

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    I thought Ivy's had special rules that prohibited extra years?
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    The Ivies don't necessarily prohibit "extra years", per se: what it prevents is the conventional redshirt that is allowed at other schools. An extra year of eligibility is only granted to wrestlers for medical reasons (like what happened to Bosak) or an Olympic redshirt (i.e. what Dake considered doing last year). Most Ivy League schools have found their ways around this, however, to save their athletes eligibility clocks (referred to as the greyshirt).
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    Either way, Cornell is at threat level midnight.
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    It looks like even the NCAA is in on the confusion with Bosak. From their look back at this year's tournament and look forward to next posted this week:

    "Cornell will be without the services of champions Steve Bozak and Cam Simaz and 125-pound All-American Frank Perelli, all lost to graduation. Koll does return three-time champion Kyle Dake, ..."

    Full article at:

    Penn State hopes to build dynasty - NCAA.com

    But, geez, the NCAA can't even spell Bosak's name correctly?

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