Originally Posted by jammen

As Cael would say "be grateful", as I am.

You guys are getting a lot of mileage out of my line about Everything PSU being hijacked. I can tell that wrestling news is slow!

Originally Posted by quinn14

While I always root for tOSU, I can't help but root for the Ohio HS kids that I watch every year at the state tourney either. Still love Taylor, Jordan, Dong, the Thomusseit brothers.....Roberts will have to convert me to a fan. That doesn't always happen. Derek Garcia is a guy who didn't convert me this year (not saying he won't later). But I always root for Ohio HS kids.

So if Taylor wrestles a tOSU guy who do you pull for? I realize this year it was Garcia. But supposing next year he wrestled Heflin--who would you pull for? I'm guessing Heflin.

I'm old enough to have seen Gable wrestle in college (and olympics). There was an incredible aura around him at the time. No one dominated the way he did and he seemed invincible. Cael obviously had that. DT seems to be showing the same. I thought of Gable as more of a pinner than DT, but DT seems to be changing some with 4 falls at the NCAA's. In Gable's day we didn't have MD's and TF's so the only thing better than a decision was a fall. Gable was awesome at that.

Originally Posted by TomWright25

I thought of Gable as more of a pinner than DT, but DT seems to be changing some with 4 falls at the NCAA's. In Gable's day we didn't have MD's and TF's so the only thing better than a decision was a fall. Gable was awesome at that.

I'll bet Taylor would be the pinner Gable was if there weren't TF's these days. He makes it look so easy, that sometimes I think he doesn't pin because he wants to stay out there. I can't say that's the reason, it just looks like he enjoys it so much that he would rather spend more time on the mat honing something he feels may be a weakness instead of just pinning. PSU needed pins in the NCAA and he gave it to them. With the title all ready sealed, he went ahead and teched. He is a freak of nature.

Originally Posted by quinn14

I'll bet Taylor would be the pinner Gable was if there weren't TF's these days. He makes it look so easy, that sometimes I think he doesn't pin because he wants to stay out there. I can't say that's the reason, it just looks like he enjoys it so much that he would rather spend more time on the mat honing something he feels may be a weakness instead of just pinning. PSU needed pins in the NCAA and he gave it to them. With the title all ready sealed, he went ahead and teched. He is a freak of nature.

You're probably right about DT and the TF's. If he had wrestled in Gable's day I'm sure he would have had more falls (not that he doesn't get a good many now--but not AS many). How do you think DT will make the transition to freestyle? So far he's had a bit tougher time, losing to Polz and DSJ in freestyle so far (that I know of). He's such a worker and solid wrestler that I can't help but think his freestyle talents will grow a lot when he starts focusing on it.

I think once his college career is over and he makes the switch, it won't be a problem. His takedowns are like Cael's and we saw what he did. His turns don't translate right now, but with his sense of balance in the top position, I'll bet he improves those too. I don't know how he feels about getting turned from the bottom because that is where the real difference is, IMO. But he will graduate in a non-Olympic year so he will have the time to focus on that. The takedowns, though, I think would work right now. But I am also biased towards him, so arm-spin may be the guy to ask this question.