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    Default Re: Name this 4x All American

    I agree with Tom - high seeds getting knocked off can be indicate great depth in a weight just as easily as weaker top wrestlers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBloodLion View Post
    I agree with Tom - high seeds getting knocked off can be indicate great depth in a weight just as easily as weaker top wrestlers.
    Sadly, I've watched these wrestlers. Of the 12 seeds for the 149 weight class, excluding Molinaro, there were a grand total of two AA finishes between the other 11 seeds coming into the tournament. A 5th place by Parks and a 5th place by Nauman. Three (THREE!) unseeded wrestlers took AA honors. No other weight class had more than one. Three of the top 5 seeds missed AA status all together, and the #4 seed lost his first match before battling back to take 3rd where the highest seed he faced was the # 6.

    It was a weak weight. There are no other ways to reasonably look at this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiltz View Post
    I blatantly stole this from another site

    Which 4 time All-American has never beaten a wrestler seeded higher than 6th in his NCAA Tourney history?

    RSFR
    lost first match,
    then wins MFT,
    wins NotSeeded (NS),
    wins NS,
    wins NS
    loses
    loses last match finishes 8th.

    SO
    win NS
    win NS
    lost
    wins NS
    lost
    wins NS for 5th a guy he'd beaten earlier

    JR
    wins NS
    wins NS
    wins over the #7 seed (first career victory against a seeded wrestler at this point)
    wins over the #6 seed
    loses in Finals to #4 seed and finshed #2

    SR
    wins NS
    wins NS
    wins #8
    wins NS
    wins #7 seed finishes 1st.
    I wondered when I first saw this thread over on Hawkeye Report (not going to wade in on that cesspool of anger, bitterness, and group think, so I'll ask it here) this is all absolutely true, but who cares?

    Molinaro is the worst 4x All American, 2x Finalist, 1x Champ ever? Is that what the idiot who started this thread originally was trying to get at?
    RIP Jacob Schlottke - 1984-2011

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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    I wondered when I first saw this thread over on Hawkeye Report (not going to wade in on that cesspool of anger, bitterness, and group think, so I'll ask it here) this is all absolutely true, but who cares?

    Molinaro is the worst 4x All American, 2x Finalist, 1x Champ ever? Is that what the idiot who started this thread originally was trying to get at?
    I don't think that many care but it is a neat bit of trivia. I wish I was the worst 4x AA, 2x finalist, undefeated 1x champ. I'd be OK with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    I wondered when I first saw this thread over on Hawkeye Report (not going to wade in on that cesspool of anger, bitterness, and group think, so I'll ask it here) this is all absolutely true, but who cares?

    Molinaro is the worst 4x All American, 2x Finalist, 1x Champ ever? Is that what the idiot who started this thread originally was trying to get at?

    I just found it interesting that's all. I found it over there and didn't think much about it. Other than the PSU folks who are trolling and some of the hawk fans who are a bit angry there is usually some good information. I fall into the disappointed but optimistic category.
    RIP Jacob Schlottke 1984-2011




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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiltz View Post
    I just found it interesting that's all. I found it over there and didn't think much about it. Other than the PSU folks who are trolling and some of the hawk fans who are a bit angry there is usually some good information. I fall into the disappointed but optimistic category.
    I know, I'm not criticizing you. But 86_90 (the guy who started this thread on Hawkeye Report) is one of the angriest and most bitter personalities I've seen on a wrestling message board.

    I guess he got tired of ripping on Megaludis for allegedly stalling that he moved back to an old standby.
    RIP Jacob Schlottke - 1984-2011

    "If Cornell finishes ahead of Iowa with five all americans I'll jump into the Des Moines River after finals." -Herkey#1 8/16/12

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    I saw it posted at Hawkeyenation first by sp groth I think. There are far less toxic personalities at HN.
    RIP Jacob Schlottke 1984-2011




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    I think it is someone trying to get at Frank and seems like nothing more than a bitter fan trying to diminish a wrestler's accomplisments. At the end of the day he didn't win the strongest weight as a senior but he is an NCAA champ and 4x AA. He has had a pretty stellar run. I don't think Frank could beat a primed Metcalf but it really doesn't matter. I don't think 2010 Jay Borschel beats 2012 Ed Ruth but that shouldn't diminish what Borschel accomplished.
    Last edited by 1stplace; 03-20-2012 at 07:12 PM.

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    I didn't think you were. Just saying I thought it was an interesting trivia question. I wonder if we looked at some other wrestlers NCAA tourney histories; what other interesting tidbits we would come up with.
    RIP Jacob Schlottke 1984-2011




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