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Discuss Cael: ISU and Penn State at the College Wrestling within the Wrestling Talk Forums; Originally Posted by Steve Eisenhauer If you want to engage in these arguments, then you ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Eisenhauer View Post
    If you want to engage in these arguments, then you have to acknowledge that Brands has never won a national championship as a coach without a true double recruiting "class" advantage - not just one guy but multiple guys. You can argue PSU didn't have a true double recruiting class at all without being disingenuous since it was only Taylor that came with Cael (ignoring his brother since the two never wrestled in the same year). You can't argue that Iowa didn't have a double recruiting class benefit for three years.
    Fine, I'll acknowledge all of that - Brands had an advantage when the VT guys transferred; he never has won a championship without that advantage. I'd also acknowledge that the Iowa comparison is still irrelevant to whether PSU benefited. None of that changes the fact that PSU benefited from a double recruiting class. Even if Taylor is the only guy in the class, he's a sophomore that has gone 2-1 in two years, and looks to be on his way to 2-1-1-1.

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    Fine, I'll acknowledge all of that - Brands had an advantage when the VT guys transferred; he never has won a championship without that advantage. I'd also acknowledge that the Iowa comparison is still irrelevant to whether PSU benefited. None of that changes the fact that PSU benefited from a double recruiting class. Even if Taylor is the only guy in the class, he's a sophomore that has gone 2-1 in two years, and looks to be on his way to 2-1-1-1.
    Then every time a single guy transfers from one school to another, the receiving coach has the benefit of a double recruiting class. It doesn't make any sense and takes all the meaning out of "recruiting class".

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    Then every time a single guy transfers from one school to another, the receiving coach has the benefit of a double recruiting class. It doesn't make any sense and takes all the meaning out of "recruiting class".
    I don't disagree with that. If the coach changes schools then it's a bit more of a direct cause and effect (true recruiting) though.

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