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    Most of us probably get their sport 'news' from reliable news sources such as ESPN and daily newspapers.

    My youngest son is still a college athlete and I have discussed with him this situation, asking him about outsiders who contact him via Facebook (in this case, it sounds like a Los Angeles 'business person' constantly contacted these young men... why & what other college athletes does he & his business interests target?). I would hope my son would not be be tempted by a quick $4000, but then he has been always been taken care of financially. I hope my son's college coaches would always represent his best interests even when he makes naive choices. All parents, even those 'who may not even know what a woodshed looks likes', want their sons and daughters in a learning environment where professors, coaches, and administrators help them reach their full potential, 'to be successful in the classroom and to become winners in life beyond college.'

    It is ironic that University of Nebraska, head wrestling coach Mark Manning has in his bio that "Manning works to instill life-long values in his wrestlers and it shows." The bus driver has a bit more explaining to do.
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    Default Re: Paul Donahoe - Grappling with scandal -Unapologetic wrestler starts over after controversial website shoot

    Both D-hoe and jordan were on scholarships -that makes them fall under the Moral terpitude clause all athletes sign when they sign their scholarships -they were both over 18 so the press or university or police dept. can release what ever info they want -this was not their first offense so Nebraska was at risk of losing scholarships or worse -amateur Athletics has come a long way from when Jim Thorpe was stripped of ever medal he ever won for accepting money to play baseball one summer , and not for the better .

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    its done and over with and the dude took 2nd to cap a great career, lets leave it at that.
    Gold is an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r.payton@att.net View Post
    Both D-hoe and jordan were ... both over 18 so the press or university or police dept. can release what ever info they want.
    Universities have not been able to release what ever they want since 1974 when the FERPA was enacted and the more strict 2002 amendments. In addition, several state Attorney Generals have issued guidance to public universities regarding educational privacy rights and compliance with NCAA rules and regulations (particularly on the topic of the NCAA Clearinghouse). Like Mark Manning with the University of Nebraska, the District Attorney in the Duke University lacrosse team situation had a 'lose tongue' and rushed to judgement. For those who are interested, the DA not only had to resign, but he is forever barred from practicing law in North Carolina and the last I heard, he may lose his house & pension in a criminal suit. And, after probably paying millions to the players wrongfully dismissed in a out-of-court settlement, Duke University probably would also disagree with R.Payton quote.

    However, most police records are public records.

    The situation involving the manner in which these young men were dismissed and the public comments of Mark Manning probably won't 'old news' until August, 2010.

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    I believe this will always be "fair game" for discussion. I'm forever talking with young athletes about how important every choice they make is because the consequences can have a lasting impact, even if it may not seem fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stardust View Post
    I believe this will always be "fair game" for discussion. I'm forever talking with young athletes about how important every choice they make is because the consequences can have a lasting impact, even if it may not seem fair.
    I concur 100%! And, it goes much, much further than just young athletes ... every decision & choice made by all of us can have lasting impact. While justice may have been served in the Duke University situation, I do feel for the District Attorney who may lose everything due to a slip of the tongue & poor judgement. The world may 'judge' him on how he handled this one case, late in his career.

    I believe the Donahoe may have learned a valuable life lesson. I doubt, though, that the rest of us have learned much from the more complex issues involved. Has the coach learned from his poor decision, poor judgement and potentially illegal activities? Does the Los Angeles businessman still scout college athletic websites looking young victims and still laughs all the way to bank? Has the NCAA learned that they used same wrestler involved, though dressed in a Nebraska singlet, in commmercials to promote their 2009 tournament & make millions for themselves and their sponsors?

    There are enough lessons to learned from this excellent Boston Globe article for all of us, particularly in a day and age that with a simple click of a mouse, information released by a slip of the tongue & photos can be transmitted around the world and be possibly available for future generations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osubucks View Post
    There are enough lessons to learned from this excellent Boston Globe article for all of us, particularly in a day and age that with a simple click of a mouse, information released by a slip of the tongue & photos can be transmitted around the world and be possibly available for future generations.
    Yeah, like don't pose naked for money if you want to keep your reputation intact.

    Another lesson: Failing newspapers print scandals before they print news.

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    And, then, there are also the obvious lessons from the winners & losers. Paul Donahoe is a winner ... a national champion in every sense of the word, winning the national championship two years ago, last year placing 3rd in the nation and this year national runner up. I believe he scored at least 17 points in tournament (please help me you scoring experts).

    With 17 more points from Donahoe, Edinboro was a winner, moving up in the final standings from 9th place to sixth place.

    Ohio State was a winner -- with their outstanding coach (Tom Ryan) and program -- finishing as the runner up in the team standings. Ohio State was aided by Paul Donahoe as his 17 points went to Edinboro and not Nebraska. In 2010, I am confident that the Ohio State Buckeyes will do excellent in the national tournament to be held in Omaha, Nebraska, where their 'streets are still a little blood-stained'. Tom Ryan was, hands down, the tournament coach of the year.

    And, the only obvious LOSERS were Nebraska, Tom Osborne and Mark Manning. Their knee-jerk reaction cost them dearly in the tournament ... without Donahoe they fell from almost a tie with Iowa (96.5 vs. 95.5) to fourth place. The best part was ESPN repeatedly mentioned throughout the tourament that it would have been Nebraska chasing Iowa with Donahoe instead Ohio State. What a priceless recruiting tool, Coach Manning!

    I think Nebraska Coach Manning has a little more cleaning to do in the streets of Omaha before next March!
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    Dead horse.

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