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    He is 6'0" 280. I think a little time over the summer working with Anspach & Sigman will help us see where this kid is at.

    The talent in Iowa City never seemed to thin out int he Gable era. I don't think that that is happening at PSU anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    He is 6'0" 280. I think a little time over the summer working with Anspach & Sigman will help us see where this kid is at.

    The talent in Iowa City never seemed to thin out int he Gable era. I don't that is happening at PSU anytime soon.
    Gable was working with more scholarships for much of his time. And I can't believe you just compared Sanderson who has one championship to Gable.
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    He didn't.

    He compared the level of talent in the Penn State room to the level of talent in the 80's-90's Iowa room. He didn't mention Sanderson at all.
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    I don't see the talent in the PSU room even close to what Iowa had back then. Too many holes. But like I said. Gable had more scholarships to work with back then. With only 9.9 scholarships to give out, teams cannot afford to give out full scholarships and if PSU is giving out a full one to a guy who has not wrestled for at least two years then, imo they are going to run out of money to give to other recruits. I could be wrong.
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    Bobby T aint scared.
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    Matt Brown took a couple years off and it seems to be working out ok for him. I expect Lawson will be here the day after his finals. In fact, I hope he is on the mat as much as possible with any (large) warm body he can find until he gets here.

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    Lawson is a very big hwt. with really good mobility,strength and aggressiveness. I expect him to make a quick impact.

    Interesting point about Gable and the scholarships. It makes it hard to compare coaches of different eras except to say that if Cael is able to come even close to Gable's success (and I don't see anything making it beyond the realm of possibility at this point), it is more impressive to me than Gable's. It's sort of like John Wooden with UCLA basketball. What college coach today will be able to have that kind of success? At one point (Lew Alcindor's freshman year), Wooden had the #1 ranked team, which was the second best team in the gym at UCLA, losing to the freshmen 75-60.

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    I see what you're saying here Steve, but I disagree. Gable had to recruit in a time without internet and social networking. He had to actually go out and find talent and convince them to go to Iowa. Coaches now-a-days can watch matches on the internet, get in contact with HS coaches and wrestlers through computer......It is just easier, IMO, to recruit now. Heck, with all the social media, Cael probably doesn't even have to do a lot of his recruiting. I'm sure other wrestlers in the PSU program and fans of PSU are facebook friends with the HS wrestlers and help in the recruiting.

    Now once you get in the wrestling room, they may be comparable as far as teaching wrestling. Come on, those are probably the best two college wrestlers in history. I'm sure they can both see flaws and correct them. They both seem to be able to get their teams fired up. But, I have to say that I don't think Gable would have allowed Molinaro to choose down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkey#1 View Post
    Gable was working with more scholarships for much of his time. And I can't believe you just compared Sanderson who has one championship to Gable.
    As JensenS pointed out, I didn't. I can't believe your original statement. Black & Gold glasses once again.

    Cael more only have 9.9 schollies to work with now but it is all relative isn't it? It is not like other schools get more or less right? If the talent is going to THIN out at PSU then it will thin out else where.

    But right now Cael is showing what even Gable said years ago "Penn State is a sleeping giant". Apparently the Beast of the East has awoken & some folks west of the Mississippi seemed to be offended by that & seek to diminish that affluence.

    Some Hawkeye fans either don't know their history or neglect it. IN the early 1970s Iowa was the forgotten step-sister of college wrestling. Oklahoma State dominated. Oklahoma & Iowa State were right behind them. Even NORTHERN IOWA had a NCAA team championship while Iowa had ZERO & had many losing seasons. Gable exported the CYCLONE way to Iowa City & the rest is history.

    Maybe PSU will never win another NCAA team championship but I doubt it.

    Perhaps history will repeat itself & have another CYCLONE great export his methods to build a dynasty elsewhere. PSU are hoping for that obviously.

    Or maybe as the last 10 years have shown, a team gets hot for 2-3 years & wins consecutive championships only to overtaken by another program. Iowa, Minnesota & Oklahoma State have been the top schools for the past 10 years. The last few years have seen Ohio State, Cornell & Penn State throw their hats int he ring. I think that is great for the sport.

    Herky has shown that NO MATTER what PSU does he will criticize them. If PSU had given Lawson a partial schoolie he would have found fault with that.
    Last edited by kr1963; 03-10-2012 at 11:56 AM.

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