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    Quote Originally Posted by Snackem View Post
    I have no idea who or when but I bet that both Taylor and Ruth drop another match during their careers.
    Have to agree although I'd say Ruth will drop several over the next 2.5 years. Taylor, I'd be surprised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    Then Chop is even more...
    Chop too! Maybe he's softening on Cael a little : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomWright25 View Post
    That brings up an interesting question. My recollection is that Troy went down voluntarily to 134 to make the strongest team for Iowa (but was not forced down by McIlravy). Is that true? Or, did McIlravy beat him out and Troy was forced to go down to have a spot on the team?

    It's always amazing when a defending NCAA champ has to change weights just to have a spot on the team! I don't know if tha was Troy S's case or not.
    He didn't have to change weights...did it 100% on his own to make room for Linc. Iowa got their title, but it was at the unnecessary expense of Troys (looking back after the fact, the move wasn't needed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trusty View Post
    He didn't have to change weights...did it 100% on his own to make room for Linc. Iowa got their title, but it was at the unnecessary expense of Troys (looking back after the fact, the move wasn't needed).
    That was quite a sacrifice for Troy S. He couldn't know that it would cost him another NCAA title (which it almost certainly did). But the pull down to that weight. That had to be rough! Wasn't he always at 142 pounder in college before that year? What a team guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamthesituation View Post
    I agree I think Ruth will lose one more match, Taylor none.

    Taylor: 132-1, 4X All American, 4X NCAA Finalist, 3X Undefeated NCAA Champ
    Ruth: 134-3, 4X All American, 3X NCAA Finalist, 2X Undefeated NCAA Champ, 3X NCAA Champ
    Ruth/Taylor: 266-4, 8X All American, 7X NCAA Finalist, 5X Undefeated NCAA Champ, 6X NCAA Champ

    Cael: 159-0, 4XAA, 4X NCAA Finalist, 4X Undefeated NCAA Champion
    Heskett: 143-9, 4XAA, 3X NCAA Finalist, 2X NCAA Champion
    Cael and Heskett: 302-9, 8X AA, 7X NCAA Finalist, 4X Undefeated National Champion, 6X NCAA Champion

    Cael and Heskett do not count though since they were not back to back in weights. Taylor and Ruth will be 3 years back to back and if you only look at those three years they may end up 200-1 with five undefeated NCAA seasons.

    Can any think of any others?
    What if Ruth bumps up the 184 and Taylor stays at 165. Then they don't count either.

    No one will argue that they're good but assuming that two guys in a combined six years of wrestling will only lose one match total is a HUGE jump. Metcalf lost in the finals, Howe got injured and it cost him a couple of losses along with a finals appearance. There may be some HS junior out there that is going to come onto the scene and destroy Ruth or Taylor in two years.

    Let's just debate people on what they've accomplished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snackem View Post
    What if Ruth bumps up the 184 and Taylor stays at 165. Then they don't count either.

    No one will argue that they're good but assuming that two guys in a combined six years of wrestling will only lose one match total is a HUGE jump. Metcalf lost in the finals, Howe got injured and it cost him a couple of losses along with a finals appearance. There may be some HS junior out there that is going to come onto the scene and destroy Ruth or Taylor in two years.

    Let's just debate people on what they've accomplished.
    Could not agree more....
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