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    This is hardly news - much less information requiring an exclamation point. A little effort could have been used to find the thread(s) where this has been discussed at length. Frankly, we've already seen nearly all the top teams wrestle head-to-head, so there would be a lot of repeat matches where most results would be the same anyway. Now if the NCAA sanctioned this competition as the "team championship" for wrestling and made the postseason competition strictly individual .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by goferphan View Post
    Going forward give the final to the team with the highest average attendance after first semester.
    Great idea!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Eisenhauer View Post
    Frankly, we've already seen nearly all the top teams wrestle head-to-head, so there would be a lot of repeat matches where most results would be the same anyway.
    Are you saying that all duals would end with the same outcome if they were wrestled more than once?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkey#1 View Post
    Are you saying that all duals would end with the same outcome if they were wrestled more than once?
    No. Hence the word "most".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkey#1 View Post
    Are you saying that all duals would end with the same outcome if they were wrestled more than once?
    This wasn't my statement, but I'll respond to it:
    No, of course there would be some changes. Minny is looking much better than they did against Cornell, PSU much better than against Minny (among others). HOWEVER, the fact that most of the top teams wrestle each other weakens the argument for the need for the official National Duals.

    There was another quote earlier that every coach's top priority should be to support the sport of wrestling and get (force?) the NCAA to adopt this format. No, the first priority of every coach is his team and the process of achieving both team and individual goals.

    I'd enjoy working toward the duals as an official event. It would simplify the scheduling decisions that coaches have to make long before the season starts. I think that wrestling has made a positive step forward to making that a reality. However, no one will force the NCAA to do anything. Even the $500k gate money put out there is a joke compared to the BILLION dollar contracts for basketball (and nearly that for football).

    this thread got me thinking, does this happen in any other sport? {An essentially individual sport holding a team championship tournament separate from the individual tournament} I don't think so any other sport does this, which might make acceptance at the administrative level even harder. Can anyone think of an example in another sport?

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    I certainly would like to see PSU attend National Duals. It looks like it is going to be a tremendous test for all teams involved. Obviously if a sanctioned National Duals can bring more exposure to the sport then I'm all for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chop View Post
    I was listening to JRob's post meet interview and he spent most of his time talking about the National Duals. One could see the frustration within him about PSU not attending the event. He mentioned both Cael and Tom Brands in the interview. He said Tom wasn't keen on the idea to start but in his mind made the right decision to attend. I am not bashing on PSU BUT if we want wrestling to gain more exposure this doesn't help the cause. JRob had it exactly right that we need the Finals to be in Iowa (not Iowa City) so 15,000+ show up and they profit $500,000.00 of the event. JRob said if this happens the NCAA will have no choice but to pick up this event and campaign like March Madness. Without PSU attending it doesn't make the field as strong or interesting. How many people would like to see IA vs PSU or PSU vs MN or PSU vs Okie State? Like JRob said the current state of wrestling can't worry about kids losing or getting injured because our sport is being attacked and we have to respond. I think he called Cael out here which I agree with. If IA would have followed PSU and not attended I personally would have expressed my displeasure in an email to Iowa Athletics. I would like all the PSU fans and wrestling fans to send emails to PSU Athletic Dept expressing your concerns about the #1 team in the nation skipping the event. This is a 1 time chance to show the NCAA that people care about this sport so they should pick this event up. What say all of you?

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    Chop do you think the finals would still draw 15K if Iowa, Iowa State or Northern Iowa were NOT in the Final Four? Also I have always felt that if it was not a NCAA sanctioned event that applied the same tournament seeding rules etc like the NCAA does in any other sport that somehow it opens the door for people not going & hence it is never quite a National Dual Championship.

    Other states are now having HS Dual championships & Tournament championships. I would like to see the NCAA do that as well.

    Personally the regional idea is nice but the NCAA tournament is done in 3 days I don't see why you could not do it all in 2 days with 16 teams seeded.

    While I am disappointed PSU is not going I think the NCAA has to step in in order to make a mandatory event otherwise every year it's importance could change as a destination & lessen it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkey#1 View Post
    Just like I thought Iowa should have been there last year I think Penn State should be there this year. However if Cael thinks this is what's best for his team then so be it. Until they make this event sanctioned by the NCAA there will always be a team that doesnt show up.
    OMG...i find myself agreeing with Herkey. WHAT HAVE YOU ALL DONE WITH HERKEY? KIDNAPPED? IMPOSTER?

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    BBL,

    gymnastics would be a good example, don't know if swimming or track and field have team scores, but I imagine that they probably do.

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