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    Another debatable one, but Christian Boley has only lost once, to Byron Tate from Wartburg at Midlands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold View Post
    Yeah, Asper also lost to Fittery. None of those officially count on their win/loss records though. So depends on how you want to define undefeated.
    'Undefeated' status should be based on official record. Losses to unattached post-grad/Olympic RS probably shouldn't be included.

    For now - Boley's loss to Tate counts as a loss. If Boley puts together a serious run in the next month or so, that changes things.
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    Those losses I agree, shouldn't be losses. Gelogaev is not gonna be affected by that loss to Hanke from a seeding standpoint or I would imagine from the Hodge either right? (NO, I'm not saying Gelogaev is in the running for the Hodge.)
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    Strong picks: Dake, Taylor, Ruth (actually whoever wins at 174, but I'm picking Ruth)

    Decent shots: Molinaro, Gelogaev

    Outside: Honeycutt (I think Simaz takes him if healthy; if not, Rosholt/Byers could)

    BTW--Isn't Perry at 174 also undefeated still?

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    Yes - Perry is listed as a 174'er since widespread rumor, which I assume to be true, is that he's there to stay. And which also makes this game a little more interesting to say the least...
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    It is 100% set in stone, Chris Perry is going 174
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomWright25 View Post
    Outside: Honeycutt (I think Simaz takes him if healthy; if not, Rosholt/Byers could)
    I understand why you're saying this, and most would probably agree that Honeycutt has merely an outside shot. Simaz has performed better than Honeycutt at NCAAs throughout the course of their careers.

    I respectfully disagree though. He has destroyed everyone he has faced so far. He has coasted through the ends of some of the matches, but they were already well in hand, and he still didn't give up takedowns.

    I think, whether Simaz is healthy or not, Honeycutt beats him. I don't think Rosholt or Byers belongs in the conversation with those two at this point. At the end of the year, I think everyone will be looking at Honeycutt on the top of the podium saying "Wow, he wasn't really pushed all year."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold View Post
    I understand why you're saying this, and most would probably agree that Honeycutt has merely an outside shot. Simaz has performed better than Honeycutt at NCAAs throughout the course of their careers.

    I respectfully disagree though. He has destroyed everyone he has faced so far. He has coasted through the ends of some of the matches, but they were already well in hand, and he still didn't give up takedowns.

    I think, whether Simaz is healthy or not, Honeycutt beats him. I don't think Rosholt or Byers belongs in the conversation with those two at this point. At the end of the year, I think everyone will be looking at Honeycutt on the top of the podium saying "Wow, he wasn't really pushed all year."
    That's what makes this interesting--just our opinions in the lack of concrete evidence. But I would respectfully disagree with your respectful disagreement! I was thinking some of the same things last year about Honeycutt before the NCAA's. Don't think they would meet before NCAA's. Be interesting to see!

    BTW is Honeycutt an Ohio boy?

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    St. Eds

    Definitely don't think Rosholt or Byers belong in the conversation with Honeycutt or Simaz.

    That's a two man race in my mind, and I say this as a big fan of Sonny Yohn.
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