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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBloodLion View Post
    I'm assuming that is a direct reference to someone, but I must have missed it. ??
    This is what is supposed to have happened with Pritzlaff and Barry Davis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    I think the student athletes should look up to their coaches. The coaches make commitments and promises during recruiting. Then they leave whenever they want for better pay. Sometimes the athletes have to sit a year when they transfer. But the coaches don't. Once those two are playing by the same rules, I will agree with your point.
    I'm going to point out that the rule is in place to reduce the number of athletes who would consider themselves to be free agents at any time and swap programs whenever they wind blows ALSO, to keep coaches from trying to steal athletes from other schools. I feel the coaches would be as bad or worse about trying to steal away athletes if they didn't have to sit out the year (depending on the release policy by sport, of course).

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    I don't recall Barry saying when he was going to step down. Link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBloodLion View Post
    I'm going to point out that the rule is in place to reduce the number of athletes who would consider themselves to be free agents at any time and swap programs whenever they wind blows ALSO, to keep coaches from trying to steal athletes from other schools. I feel the coaches would be as bad or worse about trying to steal away athletes if they didn't have to sit out the year (depending on the release policy by sport, of course).
    You are probably right. But you are also proving my point. The NCAA doesn't want students acting as free agents, but they don't care about the coaches doing it. When the students see that going on and have been told that the coaches are their mentors, what are they supposed to think? Like I've said in this and any thread that brings this subject up, it's all about the money. The universities get to do whatever they want as long as the NCAA makes money. Students don't have that option. And let me also point out that 99% of the people in the crowd come to watch the athletes, not the coaches.

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    I don't understand the reference to Barry Davis agreeing to step down at all, let alone during AH's time as a Badger. BD is a pretty young guy....at least my my standards :-)
    He's maybe 45 years old???
    My understanding is that Pritz was talking to other schools without the consent/knowledge of the Badger AD, and ran afoul of the other Barry.
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    I guess I don't care if Howe goes to Michigan, he is going abide by the rules that are in place, if he is willing to pay his own way, then so be it. I can understand both sides of the argument here, part of me would like to see him stay to honor his commitment to the university. However, the terms under which he made that commitment have obviously changed. There is surely a double standard in the NCAA right now when it comes to coaches and players changing schools.

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    I just want to point out that athletic scholarships are not 4 year contracts. They are one year contracts. Schools can and have changed the amount of money a certain athlete gets from one year to the next based on performance, so I have no issue with an athlete who changes schools when there is a coaching change. Especially in a sport like wrestling where personal development is often directly linked to coaching and workout partners. Howe has to put himself and his interests first. Just like all of the VT guys who transferred to Iowa, or Dave and Mark Schultz when they transferred to OU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkey#1 View Post
    I have mixed feelings about this. I like to see loyalty to the university but on the other hand he probably thinks Pritzlaff and Bormet can help him with his post collegiate career. Will he follow Donny if he takes a head coaching job at Michigan State after this season?
    How mixed were your feelings about the VT five? J/k
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    I have no problem with Donnie going to Michigan. I don't mind that Barry wants to keep coaching, no matter what the reason. I don't care if Howe wants to follow anyone to any school. They have the right to pursue happiness!
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