Iowa v. Oklahoma State Predictions/Discussion

JensenS · 01-16-2009, 10:20 AM

Okie State has beaten Iowa 9 in a row including last year when they definitely weren't supposed to.

Iowa should win again this year, but the way the teams match up look relatively interesting especially if Falck is still out.

125: #16 Obe Blanc v. #5 Charlie Falck/UR JJ Krutsinger
133: #15 Chris Notte v. #5 Daniel Dennis
141: #18 Jamal Parks v. #1 Alex Tsirtsis
149: UR Luke Silver v. #1 Brent Metcalf
157: #11 Neil Erisman v. UR Matt Ballweg
165: #11 Brandon Mason v. #3 Ryan Morningstar
174: UR Newly McSpadden v. #4 Jay Borschel
184: UR Jared Shelton v. #3 Phil Keddy
197: #9 Clayton Foster v. #20 Chad Beatty
285: #1 Jared Rosholt v. #12 Dan Erekson

With no Falck in the line up I have it 20-12 Iowa, however there are a lot of bouts here that can go the other way.

If Falck wrestles I think he beats Obe although Obe has won their only match in the past, Parks has a shot at Tsirtsis, and Mason has a shot at Morningstar. Then to be fair Iowa has shots at both 197 and 285.

This match up could range anywhere from an Iowa blow out, to a 10th straight win by Oklahoma State.

Should be a fun dual

Wiltz · 01-16-2009, 11:13 AM

My Predictions

125 Charlie Falck WBD Blanc 6-4 3-0 Iowa or Krutsinger LBD Blanc 12-5

133 Daniel Dennis WBD Notte 7-4 6-0 Iowa or Slaton WBMD Notte 14-4

141 Alex Tsirtsis WBD Parks 6-3 9-0 Iowa or LeClere LBD 5-4 Parks

149 Brent Metcalf WBTF Silver 20-5 14-0 Iowa

157 Matt Ballweg LBMD Eirsman 12-4 14-4 Iowa

165 Ryan Morningstar WBD Brandon Mason 3-2 17-4 Iowa

174 Jay Borschel WBMD McSpadden 15-7 21-4 Iowa

184 Phil Keddy WBD Shelton 11-4 24-4 Iowa

197 Chad Beatty LBD 7-5 Clayton Foster 24-7 Iowa

HWT Dan Erekson LBD Rosholt 4-2 24-10 Iowa

Iowa will be weighing in two guys at the first three weights

r.payton@att.net · 01-16-2009, 11:54 AM

JensenS,

A 100 years ago when I was coaching a wrestler could only move up one weight from his certification-McSpadden was a 57 lber a month ago -how can you move up 2 classes like that -plus he beat a few decent people at the Va Duals .

JensenS · 01-16-2009, 11:58 AM

You can move up as high as you want so long as you meet the minimum weight.

Chad Beatty was certed as a 174 last year and wrestled at the Kauffman Brand Open there but wound up wrestling 197 during the dual season all while weighing 180 or so.

r.payton@att.net · 01-16-2009, 01:09 PM

At the va duals , McSpadden stuck Rubertus from Navy and lost to Miller CMU-7-5-I don't think he'll get majored . Also ,Mason is so tough with those legs that IF he can get a takedown on Mstar he can win .

Wiltz · 01-16-2009, 01:17 PM

Miller tends to slow down matches from the couple of times I've seen him wrestle.

SetonHallPirate · 01-16-2009, 01:49 PM

payton-You can only move down one weight (based on weigh-in weight, not based on what you wrestle at) over the course of the season. For instance, McSpadden is no longer eligible to go 157 for the rest of the season (assuming he weighed in at 174 for the Virginia Duals), but he can go 165 if he decides to. However, there is no maximum ceiling.

shopping · 01-16-2009, 01:56 PM

125 Blanc dec Krutsinger 3-0 If Faulk is in he gets the win and the dual

133 Dennis md Notte 3-4

141 Parks dec Tshirts 6-4 upset special

149 Metcalf tf Silver 6-9 We all know he can't pin him

157 Erisman dec Ballweg 9-9

165 Mason dec Morningstar 12-9 TD for Mason wins a snoozer

174 Borshell md McSpadden 12-13

184 Keddy md McNeil 12-17

197 Foster dec Beatty 15-17

Hwt Rosholt dec Erickson 18-17

Oh Boy..Look out Hawks

Granted, everything will have to go OSU'S way but they are at home.

Gold · 01-16-2009, 02:49 PM

I consider this a very down year for OSU, and I expected this to be a blow out before looking at the matchups, but it's surprising how well OSU matches up with Iowa.

That said, I still think the final score will be a blowout, but in terms of individual matches, most of them should be pretty close. OSU could pull off the upset, but I sure wouldn't bet on it...

r.payton@att.net · 01-16-2009, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SetonHallPirate

payton-You can only move down one weight (based on weigh-in weight, not based on what you wrestle at) over the course of the season. For instance, McSpadden is no longer eligible to go 157 for the rest of the season (assuming he weighed in at 174 for the Virginia Duals), but he can go 165 if he decides to. However, there is no maximum ceiling.

I was a high school coach and the rule in Indiana was you could only go up one weight from your cert weight -then down one , but you had to have 6 weigh ins for the state . This Erisman ? 157lber -must be tough to move McSpadden out .

01-16-2009, 10:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
JensenS Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delaware Posts: 13,710	Iowa v. Oklahoma State Predictions/Discussion Okie State has beaten Iowa 9 in a row including last year when they definitely weren't supposed to. Iowa should win again this year, but the way the teams match up look relatively interesting especially if Falck is still out. 125: #16 Obe Blanc v. #5 Charlie Falck/UR JJ Krutsinger 133: #15 Chris Notte v. #5 Daniel Dennis 141: #18 Jamal Parks v. #1 Alex Tsirtsis 149: UR Luke Silver v. #1 Brent Metcalf 157: #11 Neil Erisman v. UR Matt Ballweg 165: #11 Brandon Mason v. #3 Ryan Morningstar 174: UR Newly McSpadden v. #4 Jay Borschel 184: UR Jared Shelton v. #3 Phil Keddy 197: #9 Clayton Foster v. #20 Chad Beatty 285: #1 Jared Rosholt v. #12 Dan Erekson With no Falck in the line up I have it 20-12 Iowa, however there are a lot of bouts here that can go the other way. If Falck wrestles I think he beats Obe although Obe has won their only match in the past, Parks has a shot at Tsirtsis, and Mason has a shot at Morningstar. Then to be fair Iowa has shots at both 197 and 285. This match up could range anywhere from an Iowa blow out, to a 10th straight win by Oklahoma State. Should be a fun dual Last edited by Schlottke; 01-16-2009 at 01:28 PM.

01-16-2009, 11:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
Wiltz Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 6,943	Re: Iowa v. Oklahoma State Predictions/Discussion My Predictions 125 Charlie Falck WBD Blanc 6-4 3-0 Iowa or Krutsinger LBD Blanc 12-5 133 Daniel Dennis WBD Notte 7-4 6-0 Iowa or Slaton WBMD Notte 14-4 141 Alex Tsirtsis WBD Parks 6-3 9-0 Iowa or LeClere LBD 5-4 Parks 149 Brent Metcalf WBTF Silver 20-5 14-0 Iowa 157 Matt Ballweg LBMD Eirsman 12-4 14-4 Iowa 165 Ryan Morningstar WBD Brandon Mason 3-2 17-4 Iowa 174 Jay Borschel WBMD McSpadden 15-7 21-4 Iowa 184 Phil Keddy WBD Shelton 11-4 24-4 Iowa 197 Chad Beatty LBD 7-5 Clayton Foster 24-7 Iowa HWT Dan Erekson LBD Rosholt 4-2 24-10 Iowa Iowa will be weighing in two guys at the first three weights __________________ "He quits, not because he wants to, but because he has to. He has no choice. " -Tom Brands 01/20/08

01-16-2009, 11:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
r.payton@att.net Olympic Champ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Danville .Indiana Posts: 4,092	Re: Iowa v. Oklahoma State Predictions/Discussion JensenS, A 100 years ago when I was coaching a wrestler could only move up one weight from his certification-McSpadden was a 57 lber a month ago -how can you move up 2 classes like that -plus he beat a few decent people at the Va Duals .

01-16-2009, 11:58 AM	#4 (permalink)
JensenS Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delaware Posts: 13,710	Re: Iowa v. Oklahoma State Predictions/Discussion You can move up as high as you want so long as you meet the minimum weight. Chad Beatty was certed as a 174 last year and wrestled at the Kauffman Brand Open there but wound up wrestling 197 during the dual season all while weighing 180 or so.

01-16-2009, 01:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
r.payton@att.net Olympic Champ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Danville .Indiana Posts: 4,092	Re: Iowa v. Oklahoma State Predictions/Discussion At the va duals , McSpadden stuck Rubertus from Navy and lost to Miller CMU-7-5-I don't think he'll get majored . Also ,Mason is so tough with those legs that IF he can get a takedown on Mstar he can win .

01-16-2009, 01:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
Wiltz Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 6,943	Re: Iowa v. Oklahoma State Predictions/Discussion Miller tends to slow down matches from the couple of times I've seen him wrestle. __________________ "He quits, not because he wants to, but because he has to. He has no choice. " -Tom Brands 01/20/08

01-16-2009, 01:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
SetonHallPirate Redshirt Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 192	Re: Iowa v. Oklahoma State Predictions/Discussion payton-You can only move down one weight (based on weigh-in weight, not based on what you wrestle at) over the course of the season. For instance, McSpadden is no longer eligible to go 157 for the rest of the season (assuming he weighed in at 174 for the Virginia Duals), but he can go 165 if he decides to. However, there is no maximum ceiling.

01-16-2009, 01:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
shopping Redshirt Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 142	Re: Iowa v. Oklahoma State Predictions/Discussion 125 Blanc dec Krutsinger 3-0 If Faulk is in he gets the win and the dual 133 Dennis md Notte 3-4 141 Parks dec Tshirts 6-4 upset special 149 Metcalf tf Silver 6-9 We all know he can't pin him 157 Erisman dec Ballweg 9-9 165 Mason dec Morningstar 12-9 TD for Mason wins a snoozer 174 Borshell md McSpadden 12-13 184 Keddy md McNeil 12-17 197 Foster dec Beatty 15-17 Hwt Rosholt dec Erickson 18-17 Oh Boy..Look out Hawks Granted, everything will have to go OSU'S way but they are at home.

01-16-2009, 02:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
Gold Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cambridge or Columbus, OH, depending on the time of year Posts: 3,017	Re: Iowa v. Oklahoma State Predictions/Discussion I consider this a very down year for OSU, and I expected this to be a blow out before looking at the matchups, but it's surprising how well OSU matches up with Iowa. That said, I still think the final score will be a blowout, but in terms of individual matches, most of them should be pretty close. OSU could pull off the upset, but I sure wouldn't bet on it...

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