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    Default Did Gable push Nichols into retirement?

    Dan Gable wrestled for Harold Nichols. Won and retired and was hired by Gary Kurdlemeier at Iowa. Harold Nichols teams had won six NCAA titles, the last the first year Dan Gable was head coach at Iowa. Gable and Iowa proceeded to win nine straight NCAA Titles. ISU has not won one since Gables first year at Iowa.

    Did Gable push Nichols into retirement?

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    Iowa State won a title in 1987 with Jim Gibbons as Head Coach.
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    Thanks, forgot about that one and missed it in looking among all the Iowa/OSU entries...

    I think Coach Nichols was proud of what Gable was doing but frustrated that he couldn't put together a team to knock the Hawkeyes off their perch.

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    I would agree with you zzyzx, but put Nichols into the hat with about every other college wrestling coach out there too that was frustrated with what Gable was doing. Gable quite conceivably could be considered the greatest coach of any sport in history. I for one would put his credentials up against anybody out there in any sport. A coach like Gable comes along once in a lifetime in my opinion.

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    Lucky for Gable, the man who was probably the best coach in college history retired just as Gable stepped up. Although they put together similar runs, what John Wooden did in men's basketball eclipses what Gable did in wrestling. While I would much rather watch wrestling than basketball, the number of teams and relative parity in college basketball was much greater than wrestling then (and still is).

    Then again, comparing across sports is like comparing apples and tomatoes.

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    We'll just disagree on the Gable/Wooden comparison. Wooden took how many years to get to a title? Iowa won an NCAA Title quickly under Gary Kurdlemeier with Dan Gable as an assistant. Then, once Gable took over his team won the Title his second year as head coach and the next 8 in a row. 15 Titles in 21 seasons under Gable. That is pretty good.

    Even more impressive is the fact that before Dan Gable came on board the coaching staff at Iowa they had never won an NCAA Team title. Iowa State had a half dozen and Iowa was the poor cousin in State.

    A lot of ISU fans and alumni were not happy that their school let Dan Gable get away. Nichols was part of the group that didn't pursue him immediately after his Olympic Gold medal run - a major mistake on their part.

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    Wooden started coaching at UCLA in the 48/49 season and didnt win his first title until the 63/64 season. He won 10 titles in 30 years compared to Gables 15 in 21 seasons. I'd say Gable has the edge although it is comparing apples to oranges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBloodLion View Post
    Lucky for Gable, the man who was probably the best coach in college history retired just as Gable stepped up. Although they put together similar runs, what John Wooden did in men's basketball eclipses what Gable did in wrestling. While I would much rather watch wrestling than basketball, the number of teams and relative parity in college basketball was much greater than wrestling then (and still is).

    Then again, comparing across sports is like comparing apples and tomatoes.
    BBL--you've got more courage than I do. I was already thinking of making a similar comment about Wooden and then thought I would get kicked off this board for bringing in basketball in that kind of favorable light. I know banbasketball won't like it! I recently saw a list of the top 10 Sports records of all time, and Wooden's string of 7 straight NCAA championships was listed at #3 on the list. But I know it's like comparing apples and oranges. But, what Gable did is amazing. I don't think anyone is going to come close to be able to match his streak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkey#1 View Post
    Wooden started coaching at UCLA in the 48/49 season and didnt win his first title until the 63/64 season. He won 10 titles in 30 years compared to Gables 15 in 21 seasons. I'd say Gable has the edge although it is comparing apples to oranges.
    Herkey--I hadn't read your quote when I wrote mine about apples and oranges. This is scary--an Iowa and a PSU fan starting to think a little alike! I realize it wasn't a terribly original thought, but still!

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