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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    C'mon Zapp as a lawyer you already know that in some cases "assaulting an officer" can consist of resisting arrest or merely touching a cop or accidentally hitting a cop when you are trying to protect or defend someone else. Some police have an overblown sense of self importance at times too.

    If you knew the sources & the history of the things I have sparsely commented upon you wouldn't use the word biased.

    All I am saying is that those charges sound a lot worse than they are.
    Since when is resisting arrest not taken seriously? That sounds like a big enough deal to me.

    So KR's stance on any PSU wrestlers' involvement with the law would involve the perpitrator offending in the most passive manner imaginable.

    Even though he has no actual knowledge(apart from the biased perspectives he may have come into contact with) he will take the stance that he merely came into contact with them and that this is essentially a version of Police being bad people out to get Ed Ruth.
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    I should note that unless Ruth was on top of the officer brutally beating him, this will likely get plead out for probation.
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    Wow, State Penn has some serious problems with authority it seems like. Ruth, Long, Sherlock, and others........Their Coach better get things straightened out soon. He already sold out for a National Title, but this is getting ridiculous now. Like Florida Football crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    So...just to be clear...to argue that McDonough won't pin Megaludis, you've posted a Freestyle match where Megaludis beat Alan Waters from before McDonough even wrestled a match in his RS Freshman championship season?

    Sorry for all the posts in a row.
    Counselor is Vais statment that McD will pin Megaludis any less assumptive?

    I am finding this assumptive posturing pretty funny. And it isn't even like I am saying that he will beat McD. You are getting apparently somewhat indignant over me refuting Vais's claim that McD will deck Megaludis, a kid with one of the better resumes coming out of HS in awhile (like being only the 3rd 4x Powerade champ ever, having very nearly his own Cael like streak while wrestling int he PIAA).

    Matt is no doubt an incredibly good wrestler. When I met him he seemed VERY focused. But anyone can lose, anyone can have a bad day. No one is invincible.

    I also said that I basing it upon what I heard Nico doing in the room, especially before Long disappeared.

    AND in actuality, I am posting the video that to argue your statement that Megaludis won't even sniff AA when you have Waters at 5th. You also have Waters above Mango who beat Alan at Philly. Past performance is no guarantee of future success but I will bet on Nico repeating against Waters should they meet again this year.

    By the time January rolls around I am very certain that he will be improved by the staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    Counselor is Vais statment that McD will pin Megaludis any less assumptive?[
    Well, yes. McDonough is a proven dominator at this level who puts up big bonus points.

    I am finding this assumptive posturing pretty funny. And it isn't even like I am saying that he will beat McD. You are getting apparently somewhat indignant over me refuting Vais's claim that McD will deck Megaludis, a kid with one of the better resumes coming out of HS in awhile (like being only the 3rd 4x Powerade champ ever, having very nearly his own Cael like streak while wrestling int he PIAA).
    Nate Moore had much better HS credentials than teammate McDonough coming into college also. How's that going for him?

    Matt is no doubt an incredibly good wrestler. When I met him he seemed VERY focused. But anyone can lose, anyone can have a bad day. No one is invincible.
    Sure, I'll go with that. McDonough has yet to have a "bad day" in college, but ok. All his losses (all 3 of them) were to great opponents where he didn't wrestle poorly.

    I also said that I basing it upon what I heard Nico doing in the room, especially before Long disappeared.
    Well, as long as this isn't second-hand information. BTW, the aforementioned Nate Moore was ALSO widely hailed for dominating fools in the room.

    AND in actuality, I am posting the video that to argue your statement that Megaludis won't even sniff AA when you have Waters at 5th. You also have Waters above Mango who beat Alan at Philly. Past performance is no guarantee of future success but I will bet on Nico repeating against Waters should they meet again this year.
    I believe I said "not a sure-fire AA", not "[he] won't even sniff AA." Waters I have improving with top-level coaching and collegiate experience, whereas I see Megaludis as having less room to improve.

    By the time January rolls around I am very certain that he will be improved by the staff.
    I'm sure he'll be better, but he's still a true freshman. Saying a true freshman might get pinned by a returning NCAA champion and that said true frosh might not make AA hardly seems disrespectful to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    Some cases, but most of the cases I've come across are, in fact, not this. Assaulting an officer is a serious charge.
    Possibly, but that's the point. I do NOT know your sources, so all I have is to look at what I can see. It's hard to believe that any source you have about this wouldn't be someone very close to Ruth or Ruth himself, which inherently makes the source biased.

    I truly hope so. Ruth is a joy to watch and brimming with potential.
    There is a difference between being biased & telling your side of the story. There is a difference between assaulting a policeman & a cop getting in the way of someone trying to defend his friend or break up a fight or doing something decent in a ridiculous situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    Since when is resisting arrest not taken seriously? That sounds like a big enough deal to me.

    So KR's stance on any PSU wrestlers' involvement with the law would involve the perpetrator offending in the most passive manner imaginable.

    Even though he has no actual knowledge (apart from the biased perspectives he may have come into contact with) he will take the stance that he merely came into contact with them and that this is essentially a version of Police being bad people out to get Ed Ruth.
    Think what you want. I am pretty done with this for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    Well, yes. McDonough is a proven dominator at this level who puts up big bonus points.
    No they are just as assumptive because there in the past & then is really no proof of future performance. It can only be an indicator but any conclusions made regardless of the facts is equally as assumptive. Now if you want to talk probability then we can call someone in Vegas.....

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    Nate Moore had much better HS credentials than teammate McDonough coming into college also. How's that going for him?
    I have no idea what Moore's credentials were/are vs McD's. So I couldn't comment with spending a lot of time researching which I don't feel like doing at this point. My point is that last season McD pinned Morgan. Nico isn't Morgan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    Sure, I'll go with that. McDonough has yet to have a "bad day" in college, but ok. All his losses (all 3 of them) were to great opponents where he didn't wrestle poorly.
    Hey well maybe it will happen next January.

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    Well, as long as this isn't second-hand information. BTW, the aforementioned Nate Moore was ALSO widely hailed for dominating fools in the room.
    I wouldn't call Long a NCAA runner up & 3rd placer a fool on the mat.

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    I believe I said "not a sure-fire AA", not "[he] won't even sniff AA." Waters I have improving with top-level coaching and collegiate experience, whereas I see Megaludis as having less room to improve.
    I was parapharasing. If they meet this year somehow I will be sure to place a bet with u.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    I'm sure he'll be better, but he's still a true freshman. Saying a true freshman might get pinned by a returning NCAA champion and that said true frosh might not make AA hardly seems disrespectful to me.
    I never said you were disrespectful. I was saying that you seemed to be getting indignant that I was refuting Vais's ambitious prediction.

    Anyways that's 5 months down the road. If both are healthy when Iowa comes to town & scheduled to meet, we can all place some bets....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    There is a difference between assaulting a policeman & a cop getting in the way of someone trying to defend his friend or break up a fight or doing something decent in a ridiculous situation.
    Quite honestly, that sounds like the story everyone says when they are arrested for something like that. No one ever says, "yep, I did it and they nailed me for it".

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