I'm not trying to single out a program but does there seem to be a real alcohol problem at Okey St? Not so much the consumption as I'm sure that's common at every school but simply more poor judgement per capita?
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VA, I think they just like to party down there. I think you get into a little of a good old boy mindset the further South you go. Maybe those guys are of the mindset that they wrestle for the most storied program of the 1930's and they can get away with things. IDK. Sometimes maybe they can.
The more rural you get the more you get away with. For example. While in high school I was visiting my cousins in a small town in Nebraska. Two guys were going to do some drag racing. Everyone gathered on the HWY to watch. Everyone was drinking, including those who were going to race. The cop pulls up and I freaked out and threw my beer and almost started running. (thats what you do in my hometown) They all looked at me like I was crazy for throwing my beer. I believe the term was "It's just Bud." "Bud" gets out of his car. Hes about 5'5" 250lbs and 65 years old. He walked up to everyone and said he heard they were gonna race. They said they were thinking about it. He told them to be careful! Then he handed out DARE pencils to everyone and left. I stood there with my mouth wide open the whole time.
The point is that sometimes these kids are used to cops that dont give a shit what they do and they are used to getting away with things like this. Then when they get to a bigger town reality hits and it's too late. Not saying this is the situation for the OSU team but it might be.
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My family has a lot of ties to Oklahoma and suprisingly Iowa. My mom grew up in rural Oklahoma, her graduating class was 26 kids, and her "town" still doesn't have a stoplight. Most of my family still lives in Tulsa or Dubuque. A lot of the troublemakers on the team are the Oklahoma and Texas kids, and Alex Meade but we got rid of him. The midwest is a whole different kind of animal then anywhere else in the U.S. Drinking is just an everyday thing in Oklahoma. But in towns like Stillwater the cops aren't going to let things like that slide like it does out in the countryside. Now I am quite disconnected from my inner Oklahoman but I think pretty much anywhere outside of Stillwater, OKC, Tulsa, Lawton, and Norman cops don't care.
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In VA a bac of.08 is a presumption of intoxication, meaning if that bac certificate is accepted into evidence, you are screwed. And when dealing with alchohol in VA, it is a DWI.
There are localities (ARLINGTON COUNTY) which are known to prosecute and try to prove intoxication even if you are below a .08. So just because you are under, does not mean you are safe.
Legal limits are a matter of presumptions which means the burden of proof has been shifted. You blow over a .08, you are now essentially presumed guilty until proven innocent.
Now I do not drink and drive, I know how monstrously irresponsible it is, but sometimes prosecution is a bit overzealous, the DWI industry is, after all, big business.
.15,however, its safe to assume he was hammered, what is more, it is m understanding that when you blow your BAC is just as likely to still be on its way up as on its way down (the ole "one for the road").
I NJ we have Driving While Intoxicated (DWI) which is at 0.08 or higher.
However, we also have Driving Under the Influence (DUI) which can be cited at 0.01 - just walk into a beer hall and you're doomed.
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falconwrestling, check your pm
I am convinced that MADD is not as concerned about drunk driving as they are about outlawing alcohol all together. They are the ones who got the BAC dropped to .08 and illegal DUI checkpoints. If they had it their way prohibition would be back.
I say, let kids be kids. Drop the drinking age to 5 and take all the excitement out of it before people get to be old enough to drive and sneak it. The problem isn't alcohol, it's kids not being taught how to handle it. Some people can't see the forest because of the trees.----Just my two cents. Rant over.