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    He is innocent until proven guilty. Although with his background it is hard not to think that he put himself into this situation and to draw conclusions from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkey#1 View Post
    He is innocent until proven guilty. Although with his background it is hard not to think that he put himself into this situation and to draw conclusions from it.
    I agree with you. In fact, I don't know him, but I get the impression that he's a complete dick. But, if the story attached is true, how can an unconcious girl know that it was he who raped her? I realize there could have been people who watched or even dna proving he did, but right now I give him the benefit of doubt.

    Although secretly I know that if he is found guilty it just means another win for Logan Stieber on his way to the Hodge! (the stars are aligning)

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    I'm just saying it's hard to give him the benefit of the doubt with his background. If your Andrew, why would you even let yourself be put in the situation to even be implicated in such an act?

    This just kind of proves that KJ knew what he was doing when he kicked Andrew off the team and laid out specific guidlines in order for him to return to the team. Instead of facing his issue at Iowa State head on he decided to take his chances elswhere. That is totally his choice but it seems as if everyone in the world except Andrew and the decision makers at Penn State could see he was making a bad decision. Many people have demons but it does no good to run from them and it only compounds them when others enable this kind of behavior. At what point does life become more important than wrestling? For many of us, wrestling is a major part of our lives so they go hand in hand, but at some point you have to draw a line in the sand the way KJ did. It's just too bad for Andrew that nobody else did.
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    I really hope this isn't true...more for the girls sake than Andrew's. If this did indeed happen, being kicked off the wrestling team will not be his only problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiltz View Post
    If true Andrew really needs to check himself into a substance abuse program. (assuming alcohol was a factor)
    Had the same thought...
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    Kid seems to have some serious demons I agree with cell block D

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    KJ's plan was for him to get treatment then work his way back onto the team. Andrew wasn't down with that.

    I suppose he went to PSU and expected to not be a career screw up anymore.

    Guess again.
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    The guy was a high school stud, went to a major college program, partied it up after reaching the NCAA Finals and decided he was invincible. When KJ laid out that he wasn't after his first arrest and showed him he had to TRY to WORK not only on his wrestling still, but more so on his character he bolted to PSU and Cael. Like many of you said I think he thought if he went to PSU everything became erased because he's at a new school. Being kicked off the team was horrible I am sure, but once he was able to go straight to PSU and win a National Championship as a team and make AA again it was like there was no punishment for his mistakes at ISU and he began to think he could go back to it a PSU. People like this have to hit rock bottom. I'm in college, I know what it's like to party and to think you're the king of the school and your goal for the night is to get drunk and take some chick home, I've seen it thousands of times. The guy is going to have to be kicked off the wrestling team, kicked out of school and do some jail time, then get treatment or he is going to be a lifetime screw up. The results speak for them self.

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    Hawkeyes2, Andrew was arrested twice at Iowa State not once. KJ gave him two chances to work his way back onto the team. All be it the first time he only had to sit out two duals and be back in time for the Iowa dual. After that didnt work, KJ decided to give him a real punishment. Instead of taking his medicine he bolted for a "new beginning".

    It seems as if the change of scenery was all he really needed to get back on the straight and narrow.
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