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    Default Why don't colleges go after elite HS Coaches?

    As all of the TWT community regulars know, Rutgers picked up Scott Goodale, the coach who produced New Jersey's first undefeated wrestler (I believe..)- Scott Winston.

    My question is, what do you think the reasons are that coaches like Buxton, Jordan, and Jackson are not receiving offers to pick up stakes and create (or maintain) a winning college program (or if they are, why don't they do it?)? Knowing the ability & work ethic Jackson (Apple Valley) has as a High School coach, I'd imagine he would be able to do an excellent job building up a college program, and developing a staff. Buxton & Jordan would likely be just as capable.

    You see a common trend where college wrestlers become assistants out of college and work their way up to being a D1 head coach, but rarely do you see a guy start as a HS coach, build a reputable program and advance their career to college.

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    Default Re: Why don't colleges go after elite HS Coaches?

    This is a great question... The pay would definitely be better. Though I'm sure Jordan makes a living with his State Champ Camps.

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    I think Mark Reiland from Iowa City West could be a great D1 head coach.....he can recruit like nobody's business.
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    I know of one high school coach who made a the jump to college. Lonnie Morris the Johnson & Wales coach was my high school coach who started the program over there and has done a phenomenal job. Now of course its obvious that its a DIII program, but in some ways that adds to the challenge of recruiting and grooming. Part of Lonnie's success is his ability to communicate and understand the needs of each wrestlers style and strengths. I think the high school arena is a great breeding ground for college coaches to formulate the basic understanding of what it takes to manage a successful team. The fact is that in college the position is more that of a CEO than a cubicle guy. Your going to have your technique guy, conditioning guy and plenty of assistance from the University in terms of guidelines and spending. Your job is really to put a face and trademark brand of style to the program...and of course be a great politician!

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    Default Re: Why don't colleges go after elite HS Coaches?

    Dresser from VA Tech and Martin from ODU came straight from HS coaching to D1, but both had big time college wrestler achievements (both National Champs?)

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    Default Re: Why don't colleges go after elite HS Coaches?

    Schlottke, it would be a great to see if Jason Bryant could get coach Jackson on in Minnesota and ask him that very same question? I think Jackson would take the time to do the phone interview and there are alot of interesting things that I think coach Jackson could speak to.
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    Default Re: Why don't colleges go after elite HS Coaches?

    I don't think pay is the incentive. If you research the salaries of DIV I wrestling coaches there are a mere handful over $90,000. In NJ, a HS coach, teacher with a masters degree and 15 years in the system will be making over $100,000 with the wrestling stipend. The difference is the ability of the coach to host a lucrative wrestling camp. JRob probably makes double his UM pay from his wrestling camp. Not all universities will allow a coach to retain the income from the camp. Blair is a high end private school, I'll bet Buxtion is making well over $100,000.
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    Default Re: Why don't colleges go after elite HS Coaches?

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU2008 View Post
    I think Mark Reiland from Iowa City West could be a great D1 head coach.....he can recruit like nobody's business.

    I like you sarcasm. Reiland is what he is. High School is different than D1. Recruting is the real factor.
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    Default Re: Why don't colleges go after elite HS Coaches?

    I think it's the other way around. Most of the time, a college position comes open via posting. I don't think the elite high school coaches are posting for the positions. Why would Buxton want to leave Blair? I think it's kind of like some people not understanding why, in football, a coach would rather coach college than pro.
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