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    So I watched the interview with Lance Armstrong's training partner last night on 60 minutes and I was wondering. If what he was saying is true - that international cycling is rife with illegal drug use - EPO, blood doping, etc. - what about college wrestling? Does that go on in college wrestling and at the Olympic Training Center? Are guys like Brent Metcalf using these techniques? Perhaps not the exact same things - wrestling is not an endurance sport like cycling - but steroids? What do you think? I want to say: No.

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    I'm sure there are some doping in college, but wrestling isn't a money sport, and it's expensive to blood dope. Cycling is basically non-existent here, but it's huge worldwide. Lots of money to be made.
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    I'd be more concerned with stimulants and "energy" performance enhancers. Steroids aren't going to be as common in weight control sports because of the muscle building aspect (obviously).
    The NCAA does some testing, so the athletes have to be somewhat honest. But I agree - the money isn't really there during college or after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBloodLion View Post
    I'd be more concerned with stimulants and "energy" performance enhancers. Steroids aren't going to be as common in weight control sports because of the muscle building aspect (obviously).
    The NCAA does some testing, so the athletes have to be somewhat honest. But I agree - the money isn't really there during college or after.
    Adderal is ideal for wrestling: Appetite suppresant, helps you focus. Don't be surprised if it's being taken without prescription a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post
    and it's expensive to blood dope..
    Sounds like you speak from experience.
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    Was doping always illegal? Not to slander Kendall Cross (one of my favorite)....but I used to hear stories about him infusing nutrient rich blood after weigh ins.....
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    Blood doping used to be legal-as did Steroids-you could buy Dianabol from ordering from the back of Muscle And Fitness in the early 70's . there are a # of cutting Roids which give you strength and endurance and strength while cutting weight...as one of my workout partners used to say-'' If it is good enough for a million dollar Race Horse it's good enough for me ''..As he bought his stuff from a Vet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    Adderal is ideal for wrestling: Appetite suppressant, helps you focus. Don't be surprised if it's being taken without prescription a lot.
    Adderall is a psychostimulant and contains many different ingredients which combine to increase the user?s dopamine and norepinephrine levels. Dopamine & norepinephrine are two critical neurotransmitters that regulate your mood and behavior. This is the basic function behind most anti-depressants the alter your brain chemistry.

    Common side effects of Adderall usage or abuse include anorexia, dry mouth, chronic thirst, the development of sleeping disorders or generalized difficulty sleeping, chronic headaches or migraines, pain in the stomach, high blood pressure, sudden and unexplained weight loss, mood swings or other emotional changes, nausea with vomiting, sudden dizziness or fainting, a generalized feeling of weakness or tiredness, a sudden spike in heart rate, a higher risk of infections, unexplained fevers, heartburn, chest pains, and a slowing of growth in children. Those who use the drug for an extended period of time may also experience severe withdrawals, periods of depression, and with extreme abuse, amphetamine psychosis.

    More adverse side effects that should be immediately reported include suicidal thoughts or suicidal actions, sudden confusion or a feeling of displacement, a tightness in the chest with pain spreading throughout the back and the arms, heart palpitations, the inability to breathe or shortness of breath, feelings of depression or despair, changes in behavior such as becoming more aggressive or more shy, performing actions you do not recall or do not understand, experiencing visual, auditory, or sensory hallucinations, feeling restless or constantly having the need to move about, seizures or ?black out? periods, a sudden rash or the development of hives, and uncontrollable bodily movements, commonly of the head, mouth, or appendages.

    Incredibly ideal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kr1963 View Post
    Adderall is a psychostimulant and contains many different ingredients which combine to increase the user?s dopamine and norepinephrine levels. Dopamine & norepinephrine are two critical neurotransmitters that regulate your mood and behavior. This is the basic function behind most anti-depressants the alter your brain chemistry.

    Common side effects of Adderall usage or abuse include anorexia, dry mouth, chronic thirst, the development of sleeping disorders or generalized difficulty sleeping, chronic headaches or migraines, pain in the stomach, high blood pressure, sudden and unexplained weight loss, mood swings or other emotional changes, nausea with vomiting, sudden dizziness or fainting, a generalized feeling of weakness or tiredness, a sudden spike in heart rate, a higher risk of infections, unexplained fevers, heartburn, chest pains, and a slowing of growth in children. Those who use the drug for an extended period of time may also experience severe withdrawals, periods of depression, and with extreme abuse, amphetamine psychosis.

    More adverse side effects that should be immediately reported include suicidal thoughts or suicidal actions, sudden confusion or a feeling of displacement, a tightness in the chest with pain spreading throughout the back and the arms, heart palpitations, the inability to breathe or shortness of breath, feelings of depression or despair, changes in behavior such as becoming more aggressive or more shy, performing actions you do not recall or do not understand, experiencing visual, auditory, or sensory hallucinations, feeling restless or constantly having the need to move about, seizures or ?black out? periods, a sudden rash or the development of hives, and uncontrollable bodily movements, commonly of the head, mouth, or appendages.

    Incredibly ideal...
    Way to miss the point Captain Overkill.

    My point was that if something was going to be abused by wrestlers Adderal was "ideal." You pointing out the numerous side effects doesn't change that fact. I'm sure there are millions of kids on this stuff anyways. If you want it all you have to do is go to the doctor and have the ADD symptoms memorized and they'll give it to you.

    Not in any way trying get into a pharmaceutical debate because there's no way I would read your rebuttals, nor does my computer have that much RAM to process them.
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