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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkey#1 View Post
    Maybe it was just Russ, but that was the tone that was running through my head as I was reading the other posts about HGH being non harmful.
    How is HGH harmful?
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    I don't condone juicing for high school kids as their bodies are not totally matured-college-maybe-but , EXACTLY like Mark McGuires case -people saw he had a legal supplement in his locker and ran out and bought a ton of the stuff-you can fool yourself into believing you are not breaking the rules by taking a supplement instead of a banned PED but when in point the supplement turns into pure testosterone in your body . WHY would Testosterone be illegal when it is as natural as sweat ?
    Look on line-most places are rip offs but guys (MD'S) are setting up anti-aging shops and administering the stuff at their offices .
    Also-about 15 years ago they showed a film about juicing in college where Josh Brolin damn near dies at the end but breaks his PR thanks to juicing-black market steroids went up 1000%-when reporters followed up the story 95% of the athletes said they did not care if they cut 10 years off their life if they could improve 10%. And the new ''Designer drugs'' will pass ANY urine test in the world .
    You know, I think I would rather be a man than a god . We don't need anyone to believe in us. We just keep going anyhow. It's what we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JensenS View Post
    How is HGH harmful?
    I didnt say it was and I didnt mean to infer that I think it is harmful to a person. The fact is that I don't know anything about it, except that it is illegal and should be treated as such by athletes. It is a banned substance right now and gives the person that takes it an unfair advantage, making them a cheater in my mind.

    If someday the ban is lifted then, go for it. I have no problem with people using it at that time, but until then it's cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r.payton@att.net View Post
    WHY would Testosterone be illegal when it is as natural as sweat ?

    Insert the word cocaine for testosterone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkey#1 View Post
    What it is about is creating a level playing field for all the players of the game. If a substance is banned, you are cheating if you use it. It gives you an unfair advantage. I want to see 700 ft homeruns too, but by a guy that didnt cheat to do it.
    What about Laser eye surgery? Which gives you BETTER than perfect vision? Is that "level?"
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    What about a kid PRESCRIBED a stimulant medication like Adderal? Another kid isn't given that prescription but it gives kid A a definite advantage.

    The point is not everything is fair, and there is no level playing field.

    It's hilarious that people bring up baseball as an example. Since when is baseball about a "level playing field" there is one team that can spend as much money as it wants meanwhile the KC royals would never be able to generate near the level of the yankees income. Theres nothing level about the MLB playing field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    What about Laser eye surgery? Which gives you BETTER than perfect vision? Is that "level?"
    Nobody with 20/20 vision gets laser eye surgery. It is about seeing better. Most of the people on steroids already had a athletically superior body. It's about creating an advantage, which is fine, unless it's illegal...Then it's cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaisforlovers View Post
    What about a kid PRESCRIBED a stimulant medication like Adderal? Another kid isn't given that prescription but it gives kid A a definite advantage.

    The point is not everything is fair, and there is no level playing field.

    It's hilarious that people bring up baseball as an example. Since when is baseball about a "level playing field" there is one team that can spend as much money as it wants meanwhile the KC royals would never be able to generate near the level of the yankees income. Theres nothing level about the MLB playing field.

    I would argue that adderal brings the kid back to the level playing field. But I don't know much about it so I won't make that argument.

    Baseball is all about capitalism. Buying your championship isnt illegal in baseball. Winning one with a team full of juicers is not only illigal, it's immoral. Why would you want to win, knowing that you had to cheat to do it. And I'm not talking about the kind of cheating in baseball that centers around stealing signs from the catcher or rubbing a little flem on the ball. Those things have been around the game from the time it was invented and are a part of it's fabric. Hitting seventy home runs and breaking the all time record because your juiced up more than Arnold himself is despicable and those people should be banned from the sport all together. Do you think what Pete Rose did warrants a lifetime suspension, but what Sosa, Mac, Bonds, Clemens, (and on and on and on she kept goin) did doesnt?

    Maybe if your not a baseball purist you wouldnt understand what the game has turned into. I can barely watch it anymore. I love the Cubs but rarely watch a game. I was sold a bill of goods in the 90's and it turns out it was all shit. Steroids have no place in our sports. People that take them should be ashamed and banned for life when caught. IMHO.

    Now, if you want to take them and your not an athlete, go right ahead. IMO, your taking a huge risk with your health, but it's your body do what you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkey#1 View Post
    Insert the word cocaine for testosterone.
    The true name of your nuts are Testicles-which produces testosterone-a naturally occurring hormone in the body .

    The only reason I do NOT condone PEDS is the damage it does to your pysche-I have seen guys go off on Roid rages and become extremely depressed later in life. I used them for a brief time but decided putting an extra 50 lbs on my bench was not worth the money or the long term harm .
    If this stuff did NOT work why are world records dropping in all sports ? Why is it a million dollar legit business and a billion dollar underground ? This stuff is not meth-you can't make it in your attic-scientists in LABS are getting paid well for their work .
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