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    Default Instant Replay in College wrestling

    Intermat is running an article where Bobby Douglass thinks the answer is yes-the story features the Marion/Russell match where Marion appeared to have a SV TD .

    Thoughts ??

    IMO, if the Vermonster had a TD against Bosak then Marion had one against Russell.

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    I never have understood why sports wouldn't want to use all the technology they can to get calls right. I think they would need to limit the number of challenges a coach has, like they do in football, but other than that I am all for it.

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    I don't know if I'd like instant replay. It would give the other wrestler time to get some air when the Iowa guy wouldnt need any. But, it would've been nice to have Montell in the finals again. He definately got the shaft.
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    Default Re: Instant Replay in College wrestling

    IMO, instant replay has been an overwhelming negative in the sports in which it is used. First, a lot of times the wrong result is reached anyway (i.e. instant replay doesn't eliminate human error, at best it limits it). Two, whatever benefit is gained is more than lost by the resulting disruption of play. Please don't throw this time-killer into our sport. Coaches make mistakes; wrestlers make mistakes; referees make mistakes - it's all part of the sport.

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    I'd question how feasible it would be to implement. Can we really expect small D3 schools who only draw a few dozen fans to have multiple cameras set up in case there is a close call? or are people proposing to have different rules for different levels/events?

    And how often is there a big call that is so obviously wrong that replay would fix any controversy? If people are split 50-50 on the Russel-Marion call after watching it in slo-mo on TV, does anyone really think that if the ref looks at a replay they aren't still going to be split 50-50?
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    Default Re: Instant Replay in College wrestling

    I will never understood why sports don't embrace technology to the fullest. Baseball has made a mockery of itself in its effort to "preserve the integrity of the game." What integrity is there in letting the wrong team win, or ruining a kids perfect game?

    Same for wrestling. I think there are absolutely situations where it should be used.
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    Default Re: Instant Replay in College wrestling

    I?ve always felt that the official is just another uncontrollable factor in an athletic contest, like the weather or the home advantage. Ideally, referees should be infallible interpreters of the action, but of course no human being is infallible and erroneous calls are a fact of life.

    If the purpose of amateur sports is to teach life lessons and make the athletes better citizens and better people, then dealing with inaccurate officiating (not incompetent, but within human error) is one of those lessons. A mature individual will accept this and do his best to prevail, just as he will have to deal with the inequities of life beyond sports.

    Professional sports are an entirely different matter, but I feel that instant replay has no place in amateur sports.

    I friend of mine is a referee who used to officiate the NCAA Div. I tournament. Whenever a high school or college coach would accuse him of losing a match for a kid because of a bad call, he would reply, ?If you had taught him how to counter that takedown or not get turned to his back or be in better shape, he wouldn?t have lost the match, so maybe it was your coaching and not my officiating that lost it for him.?
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    Default Re: Instant Replay in College wrestling

    Back in the day when video cameras were all the rage I had parents taping a lot of matches -one kid lost a match where the ref had awarded him TD2NF3 but the official scorer screwed up and did not record the NF3-The ref raised my guys hand and then 10 minutes later the match was challenged and my kid lost ??
    At THAT time the ISHAA did not recognize the usage of video-(still don't)-in this instance I can see the need for replay as this was the last match of this kid's career as it was in the sectionals. Ref's are fallible as are scorers and I see NO need for a video to over rule a ref on a close call-yet in this instance (where the opposing coach agreed my kid should have won ) what lesson can be learned except LIFE IS UNFAIR ??

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    I think Herkey's point is really important. The fitness aspect and continuity of wrestling so too important to stop matches for replay. Maybe go with the international styles where judges watch at the same time and vote points/no points. It would happen immediately and would take multiple people for blown calls.

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