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    Too many calls are judgement calls anyway, definitely not a fan...

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    Default Re: Instant Replay in College wrestling

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBloodLion View Post
    I think Herkey's point is really important. The fitness aspect and continuity of wrestling so too important to stop matches for replay. Maybe go with the international styles where judges watch at the same time and vote points/no points. It would happen immediately and would take multiple people for blown calls.
    International now has instant replay and even with instant replay they still get it wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r.payton@att.net View Post
    Back in the day when video cameras were all the rage I had parents taping a lot of matches -one kid lost a match where the ref had awarded him TD2NF3 but the official scorer screwed up and did not record the NF3-The ref raised my guys hand and then 10 minutes later the match was challenged and my kid lost ??
    At THAT time the ISHAA did not recognize the usage of video-(still don't)-in this instance I can see the need for replay as this was the last match of this kid's career as it was in the sectionals. Ref's are fallible as are scorers and I see NO need for a video to over rule a ref on a close call-yet in this instance (where the opposing coach agreed my kid should have won ) what lesson can be learned except LIFE IS UNFAIR ??
    LIFE IS UNFAIR is a valuable lesson to learn, but that situation was not handled properly, at least according to today's rules. Scoring errors must be corrected prior to the next period, or if they occur during the last period, prior to the wrestler or coach leaving the mat area. Perhaps this rule wasn't in effect back then, but today your scenario couldn't happen.
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    If there is a ref and a second mat ref and one makes the call and the other upholds it, fine. If the initial ref makes the call and the second mat ref overturns it and they take a quick 15 seconds to debate the call, I am okay with that.

    If the instant replay gives more than 15 seconds to review, I agree, it completely changes the sport. Perhaps only in the NCAA tournament?
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    Quote Originally Posted by goferphan View Post
    If the instant replay gives more than 15 seconds to review, I agree, it completely changes the sport. Perhaps only in the NCAA tournament?
    Why would it be okay to "completely change the sport" in the NCAA tournament?
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    Default Re: Instant Replay in College wrestling

    I've always been a big fan of the 2 side refs -this would be much cheaper to implement and allows all 3 refs to cover all the mat and see different angles. I've reffed 1,000's of freestyle matches and this system has always made more sense than just one ref for a championship match.

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    In the early 1970's, Pennsylvania used the three referee system in the state tournament, if my memory serves me well. It was very helpful for stalling warnings, for example, and really came in handy if a match ended tied after overtime and there was no criterion that decided the match - then it went to a referees' (plural) decision between the two wrestlers. The panel of three usually (maybe always) did a good job in rewarding the wrestler who carried the action.

    Of course, even the three referee system didn't help Larry Kepp get a deserved stalling call against 1972 Olympian Jimmy Carr in the 1973 tournament, so every system has its flaws. But I still prefer the three referee system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    International now has instant replay and even with instant replay they still get it wrong.
    Yup. Sure do. Mind you, I've been told freestyle and greco have more "grey area" than folkstyle and thus is harder to score correctly.

    What Herkey said about conditional is also true. While lots of freestyle wrestlers are in great shape, they usually don't game plan to wear their opponent down and this a break in the action is no big deal. In folkstyle this might be different.

    Why hot have 2 refs working together on a mat? In freestyle they have 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arm-spin View Post
    Why hot have 2 refs working together on a mat? In freestyle they have 3.
    At least for the NCAA finals they did have 2 refs.
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